Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips

This post is too long for email so read on the blog if you wish.

This is a post that is has a couple of extra videos and has been deyoutubised from the original post on wordpress [23] and substack [22] due to the constant deplatforming and censorship policy of theirs that forces me to update posts for them to make sense.

When I tried to deyoutubise wordpress then the formatting collapsed due to it being classic wordpress editor which is now replaced by block editing, so this is a new post with Odysee videos.

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The issue of deprogramming people from Monarch mind control has been concerning me for some time. The estimates from insiders of the amount of people who have undergone Monarch mind control programming is in the region of 20-30 million in the US alone.

If that percentage is approximately the same that would mean 3 million in the UK. These estimates come from 34 million from Jay Parker, 30 Million from Mark Passio and an old estimate from Cisco Wheeler of 10 Million.

Gina Phillips is the first I have seen to address the scale of the problem and try and work out a system on how to do this, but she is in the first stages of doing this. I have only recently come across Gina’s work. She has not been public for very long. [original post Nov 2020]

After she did a couple of interviews in July about mind control with Chris McDonald on McFiles, Gina has been inundated with people contacting her. It seems from one video that I have watched, Deprogramming, that she is trying to come to terms with this amount of people needing help. Gina appreciates the huge problem there is with Monarch mind control and she makes some suggestions, for different paths or starting points for different groups of people to help move forward with their healing.

The whole Luciferian system is run on Monarch slave programming, and those higher in the system controlling the programming and handling for those below and so on down the system. It is a total hierarchy of Monarch mind control.

Only about 25-30 people at the top of the system are not mind controlled, according to Jessie Czebotar. These are the ones that have observed the monarch programme, but not having gone through the monarch mind control – the antichrist and his protectors, the 5 Mothers of Darkness, their 5 successors, the 5 Protectors for the mothers, the 5 Junior Protectors, and the 5 Protectors for the Successors.

However the vast majority of these 30 are dysfunctional psychopaths who routinely kill and torture.

The rest of the Illuminati, including Obama who is Phoenix – Head of the Satanic Council, see Obama is now running the Satanic Council [69], and all individuals in bloodline families have been through the Monarch mind control program. This means they are dissociative, have many alternate personalities and have demons attached. This is all part of the programming.

Monarch slaves are programmed with many different programmes dependent on the jobs chosen for them by those in charge whether politician, beta kitten sex slave, super soldier, journalist/newsreader, ambassador etc.

Demons apparently are not allowed to attach to people who already worship Jesus but then these programmed individuals can suffer from demonic oppression but the demons are not actually attached to the body. All Monarch programmed individuals will be told to do rituals in which blood sacrifices are involved. Many of the mind controlled victims are also perpetrators of horrific crimes.

Questions that I feel need to be addressed are

• If and when the satanic cult is broken down (or even before), what is going to happen to all the Monarch slaves?

• What is the true legal position about trying someone under mind control that has killed in one alter but not in another?

• How much responsibility does the Monarch mind controlled person have?

• How much responsibility does the handler have?

• How much responsibility do the programmers have?

• Who is ultimately responsible?

• What is the divide of the responsibility?

• Which Monarch mind controlled people are more victims than perpetrators?

So how do we deal with all these Monarch mind controlled slaves?

They need deprogramming, for their sake and for the sake of all of us that are not programmed, as none of the programmes are good ones, the programmes are all malevolent.

All programmes are in place to help progress satan’s ultimate goal of storming the gates of heaven to usurp the place of god and take control of the planet. When Satan does this, the antichrist, who is at the top of the illuminati system now is supposed to turn all control and authority again over to Satan, who at that point will be known as The Beast. See Antichrist Rising – The When and Where and How… [63], and Obama is now running the Satanic Council [69]

Relatively few people have been through deprogramming  and there appears to be no realisation of the extent of the extent or the difficulties. Deprogramming is a hugely long and arduous process, fraught with difficulty and needing a huge amount of time, effort and people. There are back up programmes, “reporting” alters as well as suicide and self harm programmes. There are problems with handlers being able to access victims on various key words, hand signals, colours etc and reprogramme them.

Fiona Barnett is 51 and has just completed nearly full integration of all her alters, and she says to try and get it done earlier before health is failing. Maybe with her example people can undergo the process. Fiona Barnetts Eyes Wide Open Updated Lockdown Edition [Z]

Gina appears to be the only one I know who is attempting to do something about this urgent need for deprogramming on a widespread scale. Whilst I may know more than most, I still know relatively little about Monarch mind control and deprogramming. My posts are to try and explain what I do know, to people who know less than me, so that we get more general understanding of the problem of Monarch mind control, which is still not well understood or widely recognised. If you know more, please feel free to comment or even write or recommend your own blogs or websites.

Every expert will say slightly different things and recommend different help organisations. So many organisations are corrupted that it is difficult to know which to recommend, all I would say is use your own discernment, read all you can and listen to different viewpoints until you are happy with your choice. eg some say ISSTD is corrupted.

I believe deprogramming needs spiritual, psychological / emotional and physical attention and support.

Monarch programmed individuals “slaves” are dissociative ie deliberately split into hundreds of different vastly differing personalities. This happened usually by severe trauma which is why rape and especially anal rape are often involved, as well as torture including electrical torture. Any of these personalities can be brought to the fore, in control of the physical body, on a trigger which can be a colour, a sign, a sound, a number of virtually anything programmed into that individual. Some of these personalities are utterly charming, others visually demonic.

These monarch programmed individuals have had demons attached, perhaps this is done at the quantum level, which control their behaviour – demonic possession, which is why spiritual help is needed. The demons can be got rid of by spiritual help, but there is also much emotional and physical trauma involved in this.

Some people say that God is all that is needed to heal, I believe that psychological and physical help is needed and useful. Gina tries to come to terms with the different help that different people might need.

Also check out her Twitter Gina Phillips [20] where she has done interesting threads on mind control, especially one on Mr Rogers neighbourhood programming that I saw. Gina’s video on deprogramming is here, with part of the autotranscript, and the autotranscript in Appendix 2.

Odysee 2020 Aug 18 Gina Phillips Deprogramming [10a]

Parts of the auto transcript is here, the rest is in the Appendix 2

The skill levels are so varied, it’s just like there’s no way to really just really everybody into one group so i’ve i’ve sat down and thought it out and i’m gonna try to channel you guys into different areas um it’s gonna take months to sit and figure out how to write this stuff up.

Gina emphasises the need for wholistic healing spiritual, psychological and physical… …they deal with the spiritual and there’s nothing there to help the client with the psychological or the physical with the body.

It’s like a client goes in they’re ready to  deal with the demonic, you might be there for a day or two getting some healing and the client is just sent out with these painful memories all stirred up, just raw and nobody to help them process that integrate that learn new skills to deal with the trauma without redissociating them.

I often would see people in my practice come to me after sessions with well-meaning people in inner healing ministries that just really they meant well, but they made the problem worse because the person was not able to maintain that freedom and walk in the deliverance that they got because it requires more than a couple of hours or a couple of days when we’re talking about dissociative identity disorder. This is severe trauma, i mean this is way up there, it’s a complicated disorder you can’t heal from it but there are a lot of people in my opinion trying to do well but they don’t have the whole picture, they don’t have the whole big picture.

Another thing that i’ve often seen in well-meaning inner healing ministries is that you’ll have somebody come in and they’re coming to you in crisis, they’re unstable and they’re pushed over the edge by going in and looking at really traumatic memories and they have a psychotic break.  I’ve had that happen where they turn up in my office, it’s like i was doing theophostic or inner healing with this person and they had a break with reality. So deliverance ministry is very important it’s a a critical part of the healing picture but it’s not the end-all be-all it’s it’s it won’t do the job all by itself just that alone.

Then on the other side you see the clinical side where you have clinicians and you know just let me throw out there they’re not nearly enough clinicians who know what DID is and can skillfully work through that process with clients but it’s increasing. Let’s just assume that you have a clinician who is well trained in trauma and they’re working with the client to get through the dissociative barriers well. Then they end up with the problem that they’re helping the client to be supported, to be safe, they have that healthy bond.

 They’re seeing the client, the clinician regularly they have somebody who’s accessible in their life but they tend to not be able to deal with the spiritual issue and so you end up with things like, people still having the demonic tormenting them, bringing the programming. They have stuff called backup programming, resetting it up again and so again you don’t have the whole the whole person being treated again and there’s a lot of limitations in both fields.

Being licensed, there are ethical boundaries that are there for a good reason but sometimes in this population they need more intervention. It just needs we people in the church to be a family support system. These people, if you’re a bloodliner or you’re somebody who has had the programming for many years, you’ve got to walk away, you’ve got to be pulled away from that whole environment in order to heal. If you’re continually living there in a family, this is pretty common to have the whole family – mother, father and children, they’re all programmed. Without talking to one another, without discussing it, still actively involved in the occult. That happens and it may require a parent, because they’ll all sabotage one another. It’s in their programming.

You may have one family member have to be pulled out of that family and heal before they can return because it’s just so complicated. So these people when they walk away, a lot of them they’re going to need housing. they’re going to need shelter, they’re going to need their basic needs met. I’m hoping the church can fill that need that the churches will begin to rise up.

A couple of definitions that are useful…

Deliverance Ministry – In Christianity, deliverance ministry refers to groups that perform practices and rituals to cleanse people of demons and evil spirits. This is done in order to address problems manifesting in their life as a result of demonic presences, which have authority to oppress the person. Believers attribute people’s physical, psychological, spiritual, and emotional problems to the activities of these evil spirits in their lives. Wikipedia Theophostic Counselling [18]

Theophostic is a ministry of helping emotionally wounded people to acknowledge and to identify the true source of their inner emotional pain and find lasting peace through receiving personalized truth directly from the Lord The ministry recipient describes the memory to the facilitator.

The facilitator asks the recipient some questions that will enable the recipient to drill down to the core belief housed in this memory that is troubling him. The questions are not leading questions, as the facilitator does not assume anything about the memory’s content. Rather they are open questions, posed to help the recipient himself to identify the core belief.

This core belief is known in TPM (theophostic ministry) parlance as a “lie” that causes lie-based pain. The lie arises from the recipient’s interpretation of the situation. For example, a rape victim may have formed a belief that she is dirty or shameful, whereas she was actually an innocent victim. Though her belief is false, it has the same impact on her emotional state now as if it were true. Once the recipient has identified the core troublesome belief, the facilitator prays, asking Jesus to provide the recipient with his perspective, that is, what he would like the recipient to know.

According to TPM, Jesus answers that prayer in various ways. He might provide his truth to the recipient by means of a mental picture, a feeling, a scripture, a word, a realization or some other way. The truth received from Jesus replaces the painful lie previously believed, and the result is peace. TPM says that every person believes not just one, but many lies of the kind that lead to present emotional pain. Each lie can be eliminated with the same process.

Wikipedia Deliverance Ministry [19]

Here are some of Gina’s videos, most updated 2022 Sept 9 to Odysee due to censorship policy of you tube.

2020 Sept 29 Odysee Gina Interviewing Survivor #1 – Trust [13a]

2020 Oct 7 Odysee Gina Interview- #2 Sabotage [14a]

2020 Jul 23 Odysee McFiles  Mind Control And The Deep State Ploy To Destroy America-Special Guest Gina Phillips [15a]

I have not managed to find a replacement for this youtube video the account of which has been removed, if anyone finds a copy please put the link in the comments, thanks 2020 Jul 30 McFiles Mass Activation By Sinister Forces of The Masses LIVE- With Special Guest Gina Phillips [3]

Odysee Gina Phillips Introduction of Base Programming RAMC [25]

Odysee Gina Phillips Creation of Pocket Realms [24]

• Gina Phillips website [4]

• Gina Phillips Email [16]

• Twitter Gina Phillips [20]

Gina gave some resource links, the ones I caught are here

• Traumadissociation.com [1]

• Isst-d.org [2]

• Fritz Springmeier website [5]

Also these sites may be helpful for people wanting to deprogramme, but also check resource links after the transcript on the original post. [23]

• Fiona Barnetts Wide Open Updated Lockdown Edition [Z]

• Deprogramwiki [Q]

• Svali’s website is a wealth of information on programming from an ex top level programmer [26]

I have several other posts on Gina’s videos and decodes, see

Gina Phillips

• [GP1w] 2020 Nov 11 cathyfoxBlog Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/monarch-mind-control-deprogramming-and-healing-gina-phillips/ OUTDATED see 2022 Sept 13

• [GP1s] 2020 Nov 11 FoxyFox Blog Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips OUTDATED see 2022 Sept 13

• [GP2w] 2021 Jan 29 cathyfoxblog MJ2 – Purple Programming – Monarch Mind Control Programming https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2021/01/29/purple-programming-monarch-mind-control-programming/ updated

• [GP2s] 2021 Jan 29 foxyfoxblog MJ2 – Purple Programming – Monarch Mind Control Programming https://foxyfox.substack.com/p/purple-programming-monarch-mind not as up to date as wordpress

• [GP3w] 2022 Mar 5 cathyfoxblog Superbowl 2022 Decode Gina Phillips https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2022/03/05/superbowl-2022-decode-gina-phillips/

• [GP3s] 2022 Mar 5 foxyfoxblog Superbowl 2022 Decode Gina Phillips

Superbowl 2022 Decode Gina Phillips

• [GP4s] 2022 Sept 13 foxyfox substack Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips

Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips

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Thread on other posts on mind control on my blog…

1. Thread on mind Control posts from my #CathyFoxBlog
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— cathyfoxblog (@CathyCathyFox) September 25, 2019

Thread on mind control posts on my blog [21] pingthread [21b]

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Links

[1] Traumadissociation.com

[2] isst-d.org

[3] 2020 Jul 30 McFiles Mass Activation By Sinister Forces of The Masses LIVE- With Special Guest Gina Phillips

[4] Gina Phillips website https://www.gina-phillips.com/

[5] Fritz Springmeier website http://fritz-springmeier.dbs2000ad.com/

[6] Bride movement Dan Duval

[7] Ellen Racter 25 mins

[8] Gina-phillipsd2l

[10] 2020 Aug 18 Gina-phillips d2l Deprogramming

[10a] 2020 Aug 18 Gina Phillips Deprogramming https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Deprogramming-4mL2SoxaGwI:d

[11] You tube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2klvC8sv_PrmBquz1uBoA

[12] 2020 Sept 24 Gina Cleansing the Land Prayer

[13] 2020 Sept 29 Gina Interviewing Survivor #1 – Trust

[13a] 2020 Sept 29 Odysee Gina Interviewing Survivor #1 – Trust  https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Interviewing-Survivor–1—Trust-xvkNELTCPr4:1

[14] 2020 Oct 7 Gina Interview- #2 Sabotage

[14a] 2020 Oct 7 Odysee Gina Interview- #2 Sabotage  https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Interview—2-Sabotage-oTNokS9ifXE:0

[15] 2020 Jul 23 McFiles  Mind Control And The Deep State Ploy To Destroy America-Special Guest Gina Phillips start 7 mins

[15a] 2020 Jul 23 Odysee McFiles  Mind Control And The Deep State Ploy To Destroy America-Special Guest Gina Phillips https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Mind-Control-And-The-Deep-State-Ploy-To-Destroy-America-Special-Guest-Gina-Phillips-rTPsa8GevCI:f

[16] Gina Phillips Email ginaphillipsd2l@gmail.com

[17] Mfiles videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPFDkMgHJA6JeSKjPbTXFbg

[18] Wikipedia Theophostic Counselling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophostic_counseling

[19] Wikipedia Deliverance Ministry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliverance_ministry

[20] Twitter Gina Phillips https://twitter.com/GinaPhi94724925

[21] Thread on mind control

[21b] pingthread

[22] 2020 Nov 11 FoxyFox Blog Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips

Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips

[23] 2020 Nov 11 cathyfoxBlog Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/monarch-mind-control-deprogramming-and-healing-gina-phillips/

[24] Odysee Gina Phillips Creation of Pocket Realms https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Creation-of-Pocket-Realms-tSoMubAtmHw:2

[25] Odysee Gina Phillips Introduction of Base Programming RAMC https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Introduction-to-base-programming-RAMC-Pm5Sut9YnPU:2

[26] 2018 – present Svali Speaks Again Blog https://svalispeaksagain.wordpress.com/

Gina Phillips

• [GP1w] 2020 Nov 11 cathyfoxBlog Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/monarch-mind-control-deprogramming-and-healing-gina-phillips/ OUTDATED see 2022 Sept 13

• [GP1s] 2020 Nov 11 FoxyFox Blog Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips OUTDATED see 2022 Sept 13

• [GP2w] 2021 Jan 29 cathyfoxblog MJ2 – Purple Programming – Monarch Mind Control Programming https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2021/01/29/purple-programming-monarch-mind-control-programming/

• [GP2s] 2021 Jan 29 foxyfoxblog MJ2 – Purple Programming – Monarch Mind Control Programming https://foxyfox.substack.com/p/purple-programming-monarch-mind

• [GP3w] 2022 Mar 5 cathyfoxblog Superbowl 2022 Decode Gina Phillips https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2022/03/05/superbowl-2022-decode-gina-phillips/

• [GP3s] 2022 Mar 5 foxyfoxblog Superbowl 2022 Decode Gina Phillips

• [GP4s] 2022 Sept 13 foxyfox substack Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips

Monarch Mind Control Deprogramming and Healing – Gina Phillips

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Appendix 2 Transcript of Programming

hi guys

gina phillips here um i decided to do

a little video um to give everybody an

update of what i’m doing what i’m

working on behind the scenes

i’m putting up a website i’ve started a

website

up until the interview that i had with

chris mcdonald

the couple interviews on the mac files

i’ve pretty much

just been seeing clients hidden

and i did that on purpose um

not because the powers that be you

wouldn’t know who i

am you’re you’re not going to be hacking

people’s brains

that and people in the deep state not

know what you’re doing it was more

because they tend to send you

loads of people to fill up my schedule

and just try to keep me so busy that i

can’t be effective with the clients that

i did have so

um on purpose i was kind of hidden so

now i’m scrambling around trying to

figure out

how to make this thing work and i have

to admit i have

wracked my brain trying to say how do i

teach people this

complex convoluted highly layered thing

called programming

and i’ve come to realize you just it

can’t just be done simply

it can’t be it’s it’s just it’s taken me

10 years

of a lot of prayer and and just working

to figure it out

um but i think i may have a plan

you guys will have to give me some

feedback of how it might work

i’ve been bombarded with loads of tweets

and emails people everything from people

wanting help

to clinicians wanting to know more

to um people who are in like deliverance

or inner healing type ministries

and people who’ve never done it at all

but have a real heart for it and

it’s it’s humbling it’s exciting

um i originally didn’t expect this big

of a response from

two interviews on the internet um

and i had said that i would try to

contact everybody and write everybody

back

and it’s just not possible i’m pulling

in some folks to help

um to help me out and um

i just if i don’t get back with you i

apologize that’s why i’m doing this

video is i’m hoping that

i can answer some questions let you guys

know what’s going on

and do it this way and just refer you to

my website

again my website is gina g i n a

dash phillips p h i l l

ips dot com um

and it’s dark to light darkness to light

um so because i got such a wide

response from people wanting to help or

wanting to know more

and the skill levels are so varied

um it’s just like there’s no way to

really just

rally everybody into one group

so i’ve i’ve sat down and thought it out

and i’m gonna try to channel

you guys into different areas um

it’s gonna take months to sit and figure

out how to write this stuff up and

and do something put something on paper

a hard copy

um i had just caught off guard and

see the need to do that and there’s a

need for it um

never done it before so i’m on a huge

learning curve

but um the complexity

of what programming is

it’s gonna when i show you what you’re

gonna need to know and to look through

is gonna weed out a bunch of you guys

but i’m gonna start you in one place

i’m going to assume in any future videos

i do at this website

that you already know what dissociative

identity disorder is

okay like it it would be too much for me

to start there so

if you don’t know what did is then

that’s where you need to start if you

have an interest and you want to work

with this population and it’s your heart

then you’re going to start with learning

what dissociative identity disorder is

what causes it

how do people overcome it all everything

you can learn about it and so i’m going

to throw out a couple of um

of resources that you can begin and that

would be your starting place

if you’re new to this new to working

with this population

um there’s i’ve mentioned in the

interviews with chris

the international society for the study

of trauma and dissociation

um it’s got many branches to it i’m

going to give you their website

and start there looking at their

resources looking at

the research papers the books that they

suggest

their website is i s s t

dash d dot org

and then another good website is

traumadissociation.com

t-r-a-u-m-a-d-i-s-s-o-c-i-a-t-i-o-n.com

lots of great books and resources about

did there

um i want to talk about one of the

problems

that we have when you’re trying to

get a team together or or somebody who

has

um ritual abuse mind control as a victim

of that

there just are not a lot of people

working with it

and those who are seem to have maybe one

one niche of what’s needed for helping

somebody fully recover it’s not a you

don’t get everything

you don’t get the whole happy meal there

in one place

and it may be happening somewhere if it

is

i don’t know of it and i’d love for you

to to tell me

about it somebody not that’s just not

working with one area but they’re seeing

people all the way through

the healing process and so what i’ve

seen is i’ve seen some ministries that

are

deliverance-based faith-based inner

healing ministries

and they tend to deal with the spiritual

side of it

the spiritual bondage to maybe usually

they just deal with

like demons but there are a few that are

dealing with territorial ties

and um that’s awesome but they deal with

the spiritual

and there’s nothing there to help the

client with the psychological

or the physical with the body it’s like

a client goes in

they’re ready to like deal with the

demonic you might be there for a day or

two

getting some healing and the

client is just sent out with these

painful memories all stirred up

um just raw and nobody to help them

process that integrate that

learn new skills to deal with

the trauma without redissociating them

and i often would see people in my

practice

come to me after sessions with

well-meaning people

in inner healing ministries that just

really they meant well

but they made the problem worse because

the person was not able to maintain that

freedom

and walk in the deliverance that they

got

because it requires more than a couple

of hours or a couple of days

when we’re talking about dissociative

identity disorder this is severe trauma

i mean this is way up there it’s a

complicated disorder

you can’t heal from it but there are a

lot of people in my opinion

trying to do well but they don’t have

the whole piece of the

um the whole picture they don’t have the

whole big picture

another thing that i’ve often seen in

well-meaning inner healing

ministries is that

you’ll have somebody come in and they’re

coming to you in crisis

they’re unstable and they’re pushed over

the edge by going in and

looking at really traumatic memories and

they have a psychotic break

i’ve had that happen where they turn up

in my office it’s like i was doing

theophostic or inner healing with this

person and they had a break with reality

so deliverance

ministry is very important it’s a

a critical part of the healing picture

but it’s not the end-all be-all it’s

it’s it won’t do the job all by itself

just that alone

and then on the other side you see the

clinical side

where you have clinicians and you know

just let me throw out there they’re not

nearly enough clinicians who

know what did is and can skillfully work

through that process with clients but

it’s increasing

so but let’s just assume that you have a

clinician who

is well trained in trauma did

and they’re working with the client to

get through the dissociative barriers

well then they end up with the problem

they’re helping the client to

be supported to be safe

they have that healthy bond that they’re

seeing the client

the clinician regularly they have

somebody who’s accessible in their life

but they tend to not be able to deal

with the spiritual issue

and so you end up with things like um

people still having the demonic

tormenting them

bringing the programming they have stuff

called backup programming

um resetting it up again and so

again you don’t have the whole the whole

person being treated again

and there’s a lot of limitations in both

fields

like um you know being on a licensing

board we have a lot of

ethical boundaries that are there for a

good reason

but sometimes in this population

they need well always they need more

intervention it just needs

we need churched people people in the

church to be

a family support system these people

if you’re if you’re a bloodliner or

you’re somebody who

um has had the programming for many

years you’ve got to walk away you’ve got

to be pulled away

from that whole environment in order to

heal if you’re

continually living there in a family

this is pretty common

to have the whole family mother father

and children they’re all

programmed they’re all um without

talking to one another

without discussing it still actively

involved in the occult

that happens and it may require a parent

because they’ll all sabotage one another

it’s in their programming

if you may have one family member have

to be pulled out of that family and heal

before they can return because it’s just

so complicated

so so these people when they walk away

a lot of them they’re going to need

housing they’re going to need shelter

they’re going to need their basic needs

met

and i’m hoping the church can fill that

need that the churches will begin to

rise up

i believe dan duvall his ministry is

getting ready to move

from dallas to houston and he’s talking

about setting up

some um survivor housing that’s

something that’s needed little

communities

uh where people can come for a year or

so and and

learn some skills

get deprogrammed be discipled

because it’s going to require that

that type of involvement so

it’s hard to find just one place

that can give you the survivors what

they need to really recover

and they need it all one isolated

part of the puzzle is not gonna it’s not

gonna cut it

and so that’s why i’m sitting here going

how in the world

do we pull this all together and and god

can do it but this has been what the

problem is there are people working

and people delving but it’s going to

take all of this

coming together networking

the hand of god seeing it through to

make this thing work

um who was i going to go with next so

that’s been the problem

up to this point um

so

so we talk about

how complex programming is

it’s like learning a new language

kind of like hieroglyphics or something

because it’s really

a language based on codes and symbols

and colors

and sounds and stories

um so

for those of you that are wanting to

learn more about

programming i suggest

i’m going to make a suggestion of where

you begin

and you need to

get fritz springmeyer’s books

there um the first book of his is called

um the illuminati formula used to create

a total mind control slave

and then he has a second book called the

deeper insights

into the illuminati formula um

he’s a christian guy who worked with a

former programmer

uh named cisco wheeler and

this man has been through the ringer he

has really paid a price to get this

information out of of how to de-program

and how systems are set up i

still use his um resources

his books are free online i’m going to

give you the website

but like look at this

hundreds of pages this is not everything

i have one more that i didn’t pull

together

but this is him

his online book that you can print out

for free is two books

that i just named to you so if you’re

wanting to know how program is put in

how is it set up what kinds of things

are in there

then i want you to check out his website

and print it out and start

there you go to

fritz fritz

dash springmeyer s p

r i n g m e i

r dot dbs

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and again um that’ll keep you busy for a

while

it’ll actually actually weed out a bunch

of you because some of you will sit and

look at that and go

oh my gosh that’s what i’m going to be

dealing with

yes it is i still have to look it up

when

when i’m working with a client there’s

hundreds of programs

you know i just threw out one that

everybody has in the interview with

chris

you know i i can’t memorize all of this

i have to sit and i i find some cues i’m

gonna do another video

after this one that’ll show you how i’ve

my problem solved and sort of learned to

figure out what program we’re dealing

with and what entities

but you’ll find some clues and cues once

you’ve got

in your head how programming set up with

the spring meyer books

and then i’ll look it up as a grouping

and i have to do with each client

because you know it’s like where’s this

client working

when i’m dealing with a client a client

has hundreds of parts and hundreds of

programs

that’s why sometimes you catch me in my

mind’s just a million places at once

it’s complicated

but it can be done and i believe it’s

god’s heart

um i believe that there’s going to come

a time when god in his sovereignty

just begins to move in large groups of

people deprogrammed at once because i

just believe it’s

his heart but until then

this is what i have i’m praying for that

believing for that but

this is where we’re at at this point so

for you counselors

e-clinicians and deliverance

ministry people start with spring meyer

i’ve also told people in my emails and

tweets to go and look up dan duvall

at bride bridemovement.com that’s bride

b-r-i-d-e

movement dot-com and he has a couple of

books

dan has a if i remember correctly an

undergraduate degree

in um biology and a degree in theology

so he takes a lot of

of um time to sit and preach and teach

how this is scriptural to have people

who the existence of other realms and

dimensions

and how fallen entities all spirit

beings

are both persons and they have a realm

and he does it all from scripture

so i love that about him but

in working 2d program there is

nothing that compares to his prayers he

has a couple of books this is

the first one make turn up backwards

in the video but it’s called prayers

that shake heaven and earth

and then he has another book called

advanced prayers that shake heaven and

earth

and these are prayers that he did over

the years in working with clients doing

deliverance

you would go in and somebody would get

free

and they would come back and be like it

only lasted for 24 hours dan

something else it came back the program

um had a backup program and it it re um

what’s the word reformed itself or or

he worked out all the bugs and it’s

amazing all the ways that they hold

somebody captive al so it’s

it’s like a shotgun effect you may use

these prayers in these books

and your client may not have all of the

bondages in the prayer

but you wouldn’t know until after you

had done the prayer

so it’s it’s like shooting a shotgun you

cover it all

and he’s already done the hard work with

it um

they totally changed

um how i worked with clients like

there’s nothing like them i can’t

recommend them high enough

highly enough dan also has a book called

um higher dimensions

parallel dimensions in the spirit realm

and

he talks about these other realms and

again puts them to scripture i i suggest

them for

especially christians who may be

concerned

that like this is new age or something

and the reality is we’ve just not been

taught this stuff the church is so

behind

the times um i’m not new age

i don’t believe in astral projecting and

and you know

if an angel comes to you better test the

spirit and make sure it’s from christ

you know i’m not into

anything other than the bible but dan is

a great resource

if you want to know more about how this

is biblical

so check out his resources great place

to start

and it’ll give you a better idea if you

get through these things

it’ll it’ll help you to know if this is

really for you because

i guess i’m kind of weaning people out

now to say you say you want to do this

but do you really

because this little video is going to

say here’s what it would take

here’s what it would take to work with

that population and

bringing up new age i’ve had so many

precious people

that have contacted me that are not

believers in christ they’re not

born again believers in christ and

they’re like you know i want to help and

that is so precious it is so precious

and it really

touches my heart the problem is

at its very foundation ritual abuse mind

control

is a spiritual problem and the only way

that i know to deal with deep-rooted sin

like this is through the atoning blood

of jesus christ he washes away the sin

and he through the power of his name

that he gives his children to use that’s

how you drive out these

demons that’s how you break those bonds

and

you know i i’m concerned for anybody’s

safety anybody that would want to do

this type of work and help these type of

people

on the level that we’re going to be

working if you’re not in christ if

you’re not

covered by the blood of christ there’s a

bible in the

a story in the bible about the seven

sons of skeva

i don’t know if you’ve heard it but um

there were the seven brothers of skeva

seven sons of skeva and they watched

paul

setting people free from demons people

were demonized and under their power and

influence and

they watched him set people free and

they

said well we can do that he did it so

they’re trying to do deliverance with

this fellow

and the demons speak out and say paul we

know

jesus we know but who are you

and the entities the dark entities

attacked them

and the seven brothers ran away naked

and bloody

and it’s doing deliverance in this type

of ministry where you’re engaging

powerful fallen

entities and beings that incite people

to do

murder and horrible things were things

much more worse than that

it’s dangerous it’s dangerous apart from

christ

and so even though i’m grateful that

people would be volunteering

i just can’t in good conscience

pull you on board to do this sort of

thing this type of work

this on this spiritual level i just

don’t think it’s safe

but there are also people who are not

christians or believers wanting help and

so i don’t want to leave you without any

recourse so i’m going to make a couple

of suggestions

um these are some clinicians and

psychiatrists that i worked with

um i don’t think they’re believers

they work very well with did you’re not

going to get that spiritual component

because again in my opinion it’s only

through christ

that you really can get free from those

type of entities but

you know check them out see what you can

do that um

in san diego there is a psychologist

named ellen

lachter her last name is l-a-c-t-e-r

and she has a website called end ritual

abuse dot org

you can check with her see if she has

any references she’s part of the

international society

for the study of trauma dissociation

that’s where i met her

and then there’s a lady out of canada

named allison miller

her name is spelled a 1-l a-l-i-s-o-n

miller and um

she has a book called healing the

unimaginable i’m not sure about a

website

for her but just look her up she’s out

of canada

and there’s a psychiatrist named colin

ross c-o-l-i-n

ross r-o-s-s and he’s out of canada too

but he has some hospitals in the

in the united states and he has

he has this ross institute

that manages psychiatric treatment

programs in various hospitals

using his trauma-based model and um he

you know i’ve sent clients to his

hospital he’s a good resource

um for somebody who may not be a

believer in christ that wants some

contacts

so check those folks out um

so that said ideally if i’m looking at

how because you know i’m i’m just too

old

and been at this too long i don’t want

to do it

unless we’re going to do it right um i

don’t

unless god’s building this house i i

don’t wanna do it i just

i learned the hard way it’s like his way

or no way

and um i’m open to suggestions but

ideally it looks like to me if we’re

really wanting to help

the whole client the best way would be

if we had some type of network set up

where you have clinicians

who are trained to work with trauma

complex trauma and d.i.d

and that the clients are are have we

have a resource

to go to these specific clients i mean

clinicians who work

with d.i.d and

they are the safe place for the client

to be this type of work is very

destabilizing

you’re having to look at very painful

memories and that clinician

serves as a trained person

that sees the client regularly

so that if this the client becomes

unstable and unsafe

if they’re suicidal homicidal you know

if

if something’s going off kilter they’re

there to help

oversee that also the clinician

is there to help teach the client skills

people who dissociate it usually happens

it’s a wonderful coping mechanism but

people

use that exclusively if you’re a

dissociator as your coping mechanism

they don’t learn skills of how to set

healthy boundaries

recognize healthy relationships how to

get their needs met

even know what their needs are and so

you can’t take down dissociative walls

and not replace it with new skills to

cope

they’ll just split off in more fragments

again

and your cur you have the same problem

there must be

new skills learned new coping skills

learned

in the process of deprogramming and

that’s just

some of the things that a trained

clinician

would be doing with somebody who’s a

survivor

so we would have this networking of

clinicians

who are versed and trained in how to

work with did

then we would have another group of

people which is where i’m hoping to work

um i’m still going back and forth trying

to figure out things with my licensing

board about what i can or can’t do

if i have to just give up the license i

will but

what i want to do is work in the

deprogramming part

and train some people and how to do the

deprogramming again

you know look at how difficult it is

before you tell me that you’re

wanting to do that and make sure that

you really want to go all the way but

but maybe like somebody like me or a

group of people like me

a deliverance or inner healing type

person could work

and network with clinicians where

because the

the client has to go through the

memories

you have to go back to the memories

and repent for the sins that you were

forced to do jesus

washes it away comes in with great love

but and then get free from the

territorial spirits in there

you have to be able to maintain that

part of your psyche

that part of your soul and process the

memories and integrate it if you’re

going to keep

the spirits away if you’re going to heal

and integrate

with your fractured self and so i’ve

even seen clinicians

who work with did and they don’t even

believe that

you need to work through the memories

with the client

they just box them up in boxes and this

is where we differ

they say that re-traumatizes the client

well it is traumatizing

and destabilizing to look through it but

if you help them

have the right support and you help them

to process

those memories true healing

happens you know in those fragmented

parts of self you’ll have

fragmented parts that have you know

intellect or

arts or the ability to do music and they

don’t even have access

to those gifted parts of self when

they’re fragment fragmented

so i’m of the belief that yes you do

need to go back

through those traumatic memories and

that that’s part of taking back

your soul your territory the fragmented

parts of yourself

um so working maybe

you know i’m i can do a whole lot of

people with just

the identifying what programming we’re

in so if you have a clinician

and they’re bumped up against the

memories that they’re processing

maybe i can consult and work with them

and the client

on zoom or something like that and do

the deprogramming part

because that’s the part i’m going to try

working on helping people to identify

what program are we in

what entities are we dealing with and so

what you’ll find is if you get rid of a

lot of the territorial

spirits and the demonic and the entities

there it’s actually not

as hard and i’m not trying to minimize

it’s hard

but it’s it’s um the person gets free

from that element of torment and the

clinician

and the client are only working on the

trauma memories and not the torment

from these spirits anymore so it really

does facilitate the healing process

and so if we can have something set up

like that where you’ve got the

clinicians

doing what they do and then maybe

partnering together with some

deliverance or deprogramming teams

and then thirdly we need the church to

step up to the plate

and begin to be the family the support

system that these people

who are recovering can come and talk

about

be honest i’m having a tough day i’m

having these horrible memories come up

maybe praying with them teaching them

the scriptures discipling them

they don’t even many of them even know

what a healthy family looks like

but it’s not going to be just anybody

that needs to be supporting these people

because there’s dangers

there’s dangers to that too and so they

the people who would even be supporting

this community

they’re going to be safety issues and so

i want to talk about that next a little

bit

safety what are some of the issues of

safety

first i’m going to talk about safety for

the for the safety of those who are

working with the ritual abuse

mind control community what dangers did

they

pose to us who work with them

now i’m not saying this for anybody to

be fearful

you just need to be wise and you need to

be

sharp but um this is god’s heart

these are these people are god’s heart

and he’s looking for an army

of people to work with them you’re

always going to have sabotage

you’re going to have front parts that

come to you for help

they seem as innocent and they are

because they’re fragmented off there’s

they’re wanting help they’re sincere

but you’re gonna still have the the

nighttime parts that are cult

loyal and they’re out to kill you

sometimes

out to destroy you i have had clients

who are coming they’re begging for help

left everything that they had walked

away

left cars left families to come and get

help

but yet because of the programming that

you can’t get to all at once it has to

be staged

they are returning to the occult

doing all the same rituals they’re

turning up in my yard spilling blood and

casting doing sex magic and trying to

tear me down

and that warfare hits my family um

you grow by it you know you you i learn

to take wherever the devil’s attacking

and say that’s an area in my life where

there’s an open door

let me learn how to shut it so i try to

use everything that the devil means for

harm and turn it around for good

but you’re going to face this if you’re

helping the population it’s going to be

your accounts

your bank accounts that are hacked your

tires that are slashed

it’s going to be your medical records

that disappear or

everything that you can think of it’s

like it happens

every open door that we have the devil’s

going to try to get at you to stop

the deprogramming um that’s just how it

works

um but it’ll actually really uh sharpen

you up

um it makes you get closer to christ so

um

i’m not saying shy away but this isn’t

for everybody

so know that there’s gonna be sabotage

you can’t allow these people in your

house unsupervised

you don’t leave them alone with your

children some of them may be fine

but you don’t know you don’t know you

have no idea and so it’s like

you must have thick skin for somebody

that’s going to love you one minute and

bite you in the back the next

um because they have been hurt so deeply

and abandoned

and betrayed so badly and so not

everybody can do this

if you’re easily offended if you take

things personally

that’s why there’s not a lot of people

in line doing this but it is the most

rewarding

um if this is for you and and this is

your calling

nothing satisfies better than doing what

god called you to do so

i’m just again i’m not trying to

discourage but it’s not for

everybody um

so you have to be aware of the dangers

of working with this clientele

let’s talk about the safety of the

clientele the clients

and um if you’re an inner healing

ministry and you’re working with them

the dissociative walls that they have

are there for a reason

you know i said a lot of times you have

somebody coming to an inner healing

ministry and they hit

the dissociative wall the barrier there

that wall is there to keep that person

from having

a psychotic breakdown and so sometimes

you know these people are desperate they

want help and and they’re there

a couple of hours to get some ministry

and they might get

talked into letting that wall down

but if they don’t have follow-up if they

don’t have support

like we talked about earlier it’s not

helping them at all you’re better off

if i have a client come to me especially

if it’s a child

and they don’t have a family like if

they’re in foster care

or um they don’t have a family that’s

healthy enough to help that child heal

i don’t take down the dissociative

barriers you just sort of work on some

coping skills with them

because it’s unethical to take down a

dissociative wall

when there’s not an environment

that’s set up for that child or that

person to heal

so safety for the person again it’s okay

to turn somebody away and

if that wall they don’t let it down

themselves

and say well it’s just gonna take some

more time we’re gonna have to figure out

i’ll do some more videos on it of how to

work with the resistance

how to find out what they’re needing are

they still being accessed

you know maybe that wall’s not coming

down because they’re not aware that

they’re still being accessed by the

group

by the deep state and um they’re

just going to be reprogrammed so the

walls are up thick

or maybe they don’t have a support group

they don’t have anybody to help them

process all the stuff that comes up and

maybe that’s all they need

or maybe there’s some belief systems

that were left over

from childhood like maybe there’s this

belief that says if i remember this

stuff

i’ll i’ll go crazy and so you work where

the resistance is you begin to go well

let’s look at that belief maybe

you couldn’t handle it when you were

little but

if you’ve got the support and the things

you need it may not make you go crazy

now so

respect the dissociative wall you want

it to come down by the client’s

will not by us pressuring them

you want to find out what it is they’re

needing in order for them to bring it

down themselves because

i believe that god created us to heal

that he made us healing and if we have

the things that we need will

automatically heal

it’s the same way with my body if i

break my arm

as long as i have what it the nutrients

and all the things my body needs to heal

it my bone will heal

if it’s not healing i need to look at

why am i lacking calcium

am i you know not allowing my arm to

rest so it can heal

it’s the same way with my mental with

mental trauma

my body my mind will aggress towards

healing automatically

if i have what i need for that to happen

so a huge part of time is spent

figuring what do you need and how do you

appropriate it

so again this is just a little bit of

the touching on

safety issues and working with this

clientele

also the program people will have on

every level they’ll have something

called reporter alters

they have they’re very traumatized parts

of their self who

um who were told that no more trauma

will happen to you you won’t be hurt

again

as long as you always report back to us

your programmers your handlers

and tell us when they’re um this person

or any part of this person

is going against programming

and i mean those are some of the last

things that you take out it you go

through layer and you’ll keep finding

another reporter and another reporter

um so you’re gonna have to have the

patience

to work long term

thinking in layers you know like well

you may say all right well we got 20

percent of the altars that are loyal to

christ and they’re they’re with us with

the plan and

80 percent are still cult loyal and you

keep winning

percentages over until that person

themselves can hold

for lack of a better word i don’t know

what we’re to say hold it together

where they can begin to take ownership

of them

their fragmented self and have enough

self-awareness

um enough um coping skills and stuff to

be able to say no

and that doesn’t happen overnight so if

you’re working with somebody

in inner healing and um

they’re not ready to take the

dissociative walls down i would say

use dan devos prayers for binding look

in his books and on his website

there’s plenty of prayers that bind and

protect from many of the ways that satan

attacks these people

until they are ready to take the

dissociative walls down again it needs

to be the client

who makes that decision and not

us um

let’s see where what else did i wanna

i think that’s about it for this i’m

gonna do another video after this and

talk a little bit more about programming

but um again i’m gonna do some more

interviews but

with um some other individuals

but i felt like i needed to pull away

and at least have a website

a plan um communicate with you guys

what i was hoping to do and move from

there um

lastly i’m reminded to me um

the people who have contacted me and

want to

commit to prayer like that is

foundational for everything

as somebody who’s been an intercessor

for over 30 years myself

everything we do as believers needs to

be

on the foundation of prayer and so i

want to

set up something with that first and

foremost

because that’ll just that’ll move some

mountains that’ll make this thing

go so much faster and easier i don’t

know if if

maybe we can do a monthly zoom or

something but i want to

first and foremost set up some kind of

connecting with intercessory prayer

warriors

who will commit to this cause this cause

of ritual abuse mind control sex

trafficking pedophilia because it is

through prayer that we wage war and this

is a spiritual battle and we gotta win

that war in the heavens

if we were gonna see solid victory here

in the natural

so you guys be blessed get as close to

jesus as you can

and i’ll see you in the next video god

bless