Svali Interviews by Gabbi Choong, including Transcripts
Gabbi Choong has released a second interview with Svali, this time on the subject of international child trafficking and Svali reveals some new details on the child trafficking industry centred in Amsterdam.
A few notes on what the interview covers.
Svali in training travelled in Ukraine and Asia in a big truck to orphanages, where they were were told good homes would be given to infants or teenagers and then they give the orphanage a huge donation. The children were looked after in the truck by and transported to warehouse in Amsterdam.
Procurers for the rich families and brokers who were owners of brothels from around the world would then place their orders
Infamous auction house near Paris has Tuxedo ball as cover for child trafficking, the youngest ones sold in the early hours of morning
Expendables were often taken to private party for snuff scenes
Some children bred specifically for these parties, genetically enhanced children like a child with two genitalia or three breasts
At auctions they announced what sexual activities children were trained to do
At private parties the children were also trained to gather intelligence for the Jesuit fathers
Svali was a mistress to David Rothschild, when 13-21. He loved the auction houses
One of Svali’s jobs as a teen was to help keep books for child trafficking - a fair skinned infant then at the going rate about $100,000, a pair of twins of Asian descent maybe three years old trained in certain sexual gymnastics might go for 150 to $200,000, teenage girl of say 13 or 14 going to the brothel the $50,000
Children addicted to drugs first before they would take them to the brothel
One trafficking route was from Quebec through Canada through Toronto and then down into New York City
They advertise for Nanny or housekeeper or model wanted and teenagers would disappear to brothers
New York was a large Center, Phoenix Arizona, Los Angeles another
Trafficking in India Malaysia China Russia and South America
Wherever war in Africa, pay money to allow them to come and just scoop children out of the village
All over Europe there's private sex clubs where anything goes including animal shows with children also in the US
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Incredible survivor Svali joins us to share some of her lived experiences within Illuminati / Jesuit cults where she was trained as a programmer and an oracle. This week we discuss the horrific practice of child trafficking that is a huge money spinner for the cults. Svali shares how Amsterdam, sin city, is the centrepiece of these operations. She recounts her own experiences amongst brokers that deal in our most vulnerable, seeing countless children and infants transported, handled and sold to powerful families, auction houses and sex clubs.
Svali has written a book called Breaking Free of Cult Programming and along with her blog, she shares her breakthroughs and journey deprogramming and getting free from the trauma bonds and mind control that enable these groups to enslave individuals and through this our world
Find Svali's blog about the Vatican and child trafficking here ;
https://svalispeaksagain.wordpress.com/blog/
Svali’s previous interview with Gabbi is here…
2023 Jul Rumble Svali on the Illuminati, Jesuit power structure, demonics used in mind control & 'gifts' [2r]
Other Svali Interviews and Articles
I first posted about Svali in 2020 in this post Svali, Illuminati Structure and Mind Control [Sv1w] as her first blog Svali Speaks [6] had been such an eye opener and invaluable for me when learning about the system several years earlier. I knew she had gone unerground again but did not know then that she had resurfaced and was already blogging her second blog after she had recovered deeper Jesuit memories which she wrote about in Svali Speaks Again [7]
Earlier this year, as Svali’s insight is so valuable I reposted all her old archived posts from 2000-2002 Svali Suite 101 Articles Index [4] to ensure they were not lost just to archives.
Jesuit 12 Year Old Child Ritual [5] I posted to try and emphasise to those that do not realise, the staggering number of human sacrifices that these people make and experience at such a young age.
Emma’s interview was the first I know since Svali recoverd the Jesuit memories Speaks - including Interview with Emma [Sv2w] [Sv2s] and now Gabbi had done two valuable ones with her as well.
Timeline of some Svali Interviews and Articles
2000 Mar - 2002 Oct Svali Suite 101 Articles Index [4]
2008 Oct Svali Speaks [6]
2018 - present Svali Speaks Again [7]
2020 Apr 25 cathyfoxblog Svali, Illuminati Structure and Mind Control [Sv1w]
2022 Feb 23 wordpress foxblog1 Svali Speaks - including Interview with Emma [Sv2w] [Sv2s]
2023 Jun 26 FoxyFoxblog Svali The Suite 101 Articles Index [4]
2023 Feb 2 substack FoxyFox Jesuit 12 Year Old Child Ritual [5]
2023 Jul Rumble Svali on the Illuminati, Jesuit power structure, demonics used in mind control & 'gifts' [2r]
2023 Oct Rumble Gabbi Choong interviews Svali on the truth about child trafficking [1r]
Appendix 1 Transcript Gabbi Choong interviews Svali on the truth about child trafficking [1r]
Appendix 2 Transcript Svali on the Illuminati, Jesuit power structure, demonics used in mind control & 'gifts' [2r]
Appendices and Transcripts follow at end of article, after links.
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[Sv2w] 2022 Feb 23 wordpress foxblog1 Svali Speaks - Interview with Emma https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2022/02/23/svali-interview/
[Sv2s] 2022 Feb 23 substack foxyfoxblog Svali Speaks https://foxyfox.substack.com/p/svali-interview
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[5] 2023 Feb 2 substack FoxyFox Jesuit 12 Year Old Child Ritual https://foxyfox.substack.com/p/jesuit-12-year-old-ritual #jesuits #sra #ritualabuse #csa #svali
[6] 2008 Oct Svali Speaks https://svalispeaks.wordpress.com/
[7] 2018 - present Svali Speaks Again https://svalispeaksagain.wordpress.com/
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Appendix 1 Transcript
Gabbi Choong interviews Svali on the truth about child trafficking [1]
welcome everyone today we welcome back sarley you may know spy from her
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Incredible Book Breaking Free of cult programming and her blogy speaks saliy
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was able to break through from the cult group where she was being used as a programmer and an Oracle and through her own healing
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Journey over many years she has created some amazing resources that detail the
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techniques the rituals and the procedures used during mind control programming her articles are so valuable
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both for people beginning to learn about this evil that's been hidden for from sight for so long as well as for
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survivors who are healing from ritual abuse and mind control I'll add the link
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for spar's website in the video notes we were actually discussing what would be a great topic to focus on Andy
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suggested child sex trafficking and I feel this is such an important area to
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unpack we know that the funds generated by the horrific practice of selling
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children is such a huge dollar earner for the Cults and while recent movies suggest trafficking occurs in very far
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away places and third world countries the truth is this modern day slavery is happening all around us in First World
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countries in the US in Europe and right here in Australia as well spy has a book
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about the Vatican that is free and part of her blog on her website and here she reveals how Amsterdam is actually the
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worldwide Center for infant and child sex trafficking and while the city is known for its radlight District its
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relaxed stance on brothels its sexual deviancy and its free flowing drugs it's
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another whole level to see under those red lights it's not even just underage women which is bad enough that are being
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sold on the streets it is actually our very youngest and our most vulnerable so welcome sley and thank you
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for suggesting such an important topic I actually until I read your blog I had no
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idea that Amsterdam was the centerpiece um or it was the S City for pedophile so
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that was a real surprise to me um and I would love for you to share you know
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what that setup in Amsterdam looks like and and how it functions as a a huge
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black market money spinner for these ult Network Gabby thank you and um thank you
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for having me again to talk about this topic this is a very difficult topic to
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talk about in some ways so if I hesitate it's because I'm I'm trying to calm myself down emotionally I have a lot of
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feelings surrounding this one but that's why I felt it was so important to share about it
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too take you Sean absolutely and I also this is based on
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my memories when I was in the group uh in the order as and um I know know that
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it's been at least 16 years since I've not had any real contact so things may
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have changed since then so what I'm describing is based on my memories how things were at least up until
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um maybe 2006 give or take okay sure I don't think things
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probably have changed at much in since then Amsterdam was a real surprise to me
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actually like I I kind of was picturing maybe Ukraine or um even China as being
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like a headquarters and to just think you know a city like Amsterdam in Europe
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which you know I mean it's very it's very out there in its own way
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isn't it with like you know the sex trade the the and the drugs but I just
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wouldn't have pictured that as as being their headquarters you know it's it's such a compact little little city as
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well I know surprise so yeah just I'd love to just hear you know how how do
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they hide this kind of operation in such a busy tourist area like it's packed in
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there okay Amsterdam is what I at least for the order I was in was the financial
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center of the um of the trafficking
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industry with infants and children and one of the reasons is because it does have a very um liberal
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laws and what I recall is that I did spend part of my childhood there with
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someone that I called Uncle Lou and Aunt Mary okay just those are pseudonyms but
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um actually and what happens is they were brokers in the in the
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industry because in the um trafficking industry you have people known as
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Brokers and what they do is they they they respons responsible for purchasing and having transported uh
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infants and children into uh different places so what I recall is that like the
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the this is the head area where a lot of brokers in the industry congregate in
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Amsterdam and even I remember going there are coffee houses in a Amsterdam and there's certain ones that were not
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generally used much publicly they were kind of private coffee houses where the bogers would get
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together and discuss the um the sheets like the current prices for infants
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children and things like that as a child going um uncle L said he wanted me to learn everything about the
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trade and so what I had to do is I had to go in a van with several people who
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and we actually went through parts of Eastern Europe including
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Ukraine and countries in that area and and we would do various trips or other
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trips we would go go to Asia and they would visit orphanages and they were dressed very
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nicely and the people and had business suits and they would talk to the heads
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of orphanages and say that they could find good homes for the the children and
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then what they would do is is they would um they would also give a huge donation
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to The Orphanage and then they would go through and select the children they wanted and
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these were often overcrowded understaffed orphanages yeah yeah with very little funds and so
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um and once and so they go place to place like they might take one or two children from one two or three from
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another until the van was full and what I recall is that we also
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there was also a couple of older ladies whose job was to take care of the infants in the back of the it was a huge
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it was like a transport cargo truck van you know as big and what they would do
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is they would take care of these infants as as we were transporting they would give them bottles change their diapers
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and these were women who were sworn to secrecy on pain of their entire families
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being wiped out if they ever shared any information so they were under strictest
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secrecy to and then I remember helping to give some of the babies bottles and changing them um when we were going
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through areas of that were considered sensitive or where there could be a lot of checkpoints sometimes they would they
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would give the baby something to modly to date them so they wouldn't cry while we're going through them but most of the
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check points had already been bribed and they were just wave through you
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know and they it wasn't just infants and children though sometimes it was young teenage girls too and then when we we
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get back to the city um there was a warehouse where we would go
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to and it would look like a company warehouse and they would unload there
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were sometimes there's an area with a lot of security and it looks like it it
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would be like for a a corporation with high security so no one would suspect that they were actually put bringing
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human beings into their warehouse and of course they had you know security guards everywhere as well and and they would
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just unload these these infants and children and then what they would do is
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is while they were there then then the Brokers would come and the Brokers would
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represent um various brothel around Europe and the Brokers would come and then they would put bids in and they
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start bidding on on infants and children and young teens and
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for and when they put in their bids um I'm I mean because this is so hard to
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talk about okay when they put in their time it's such a dark
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topic recognize the suffering you know that's causing oh my gosh well they
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treat them like a commodity they have checklist and they say I need three females I need at least this many
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blondes I I need four boys and I need and by the way there are as many boys trafficked as as girls I don't know
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where people get the idea that's women and so you found just as many boys yeah
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oh yeah oh yeah and so they I they say like I need one guy one broker might say well I have
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an order for 10 boys you know I want you know three Caucasians two Asians
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one you know this many you know with with uh dark skin you know and they would name the nationalities or ethn
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Necessities they were looking for or what their clients were looking for and they would just they would just select
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them from the children you know of course they had put in their orders ahead of time so that's what the B the
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people in the van were looking for and then and then they would just take them and
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then and they would take them to um various brothel like like one of the Brokers bought for a chain of brothel
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that was located say in France you know uh throughout France and and and another for UK so different
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Brokers from different countries would come and buy there and then get the children and sometimes they would transport them from the last checkpoint
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directly to a warehouse closer to the country of origin but sometimes they would just come directly to the
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warehouse and look over what they called the goods I know it sounds so demean but
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that's what they call them they say we want to look over the goods today but the first selection went to um
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the the auction houses there's special auction houses such as in um outside of
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Paris France the outside Paris France there's a very Infamous Auction
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House wow and they'll take infants and children and teen young
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teens as well as children that have been genetically bred too sometimes they'll bring in children that've been gentically bred specifically with
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certain characteristics I won't go into here but um and so then what the very wealthy
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would do is they'll sit there and they'll have a dinner say the dinner will start at 6:00 pm and it'll last a
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couple hours you know wine and dinner and everyone's in their gowns and their jewels and their Tuxedos and looks like
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a high class charity ball you know for extremely wealthy organization but it's
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not it's horrendous and so some these children would go to go to the auction
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house like this and they're in various countries too France isn't the only one it's just the one that I have some of
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the clearest memories of and um because I had to go to dinner
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with a first class um s so who insisted
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that I wear a a Dior gown this is M and my teens and sit next to him while he
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would um he and his friends would sit and then they would start the auctioning at about
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maybe at around 11:30 p.m. midnight and they'd start with the teens first so the
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teen girls and boys would be up there and they would start bidding and they're and these wealthy people are bidding on
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them for their private little parties that they have it's just horrendous just you know
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just PCT go that um lifestyle of you know for them it's this event where you
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get dressed up in like you know expensive dinner and these poor children
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that have been trafficked from probably already poverty in a bad
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situation yeah in that horrific environment and they'd probably be
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drugged and sedated and all sorts oh yeah oh yeah and and then yeah and then as the night went on the
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children got younger and younger and younger until at about 400 a.m. they're
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bidding on the infants that's just because sometimes
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those kinds of people like babies too it's just
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heartbreaking I mean we hear about you know the the women and teenage girls
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that are sold into um sex slavery in Amsterdam and Europe you know it for
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them it it it's months or years you know that they'll they'll last in that kind
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of you know horrific environment thinking you know how how can these children and these babies you
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know how long do they have like after this horrific event is just it's sickening isn't it
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yeah sorry I'm sorry to hear your experience no it's horrible it's and so so I this is a painful topic but people
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need to know that this is H this happens and so um so then they have their little
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private parties and then they they take those children and they don't
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survive is there at the actual events fary is there any other than the sale of
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the children is there any like rituals or you know any any children that are
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hurt actually at the event or it's more like a a St event and then people sort of take
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the children well I I'll share it later about a different type of trafficking
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but and these and the the ones that are bought at auction what they do then is is they'll have a little
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private party with the the these children which are considered Expendable because they've been purchased and and
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then what they do is is they snuff them they like um people this is part of their pleasure is
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is to I I I don't mean to be horrible in graphic but they they derive great
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satisfaction or whatever you call it in in doing things like that and sometimes there is a ritual too there'll be infant
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maybe at the ritual but sometimes it's just for their own pleasure they do that there's some really sick people out
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there it's just horrific I often get asked know what to people or what to
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these kind of groups you know look for in a in a childhood traffic or take to
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this kind of thing and I think what you just said then about the children being Expendable is really important because
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there there's kind of two groups of children to comment on this as well
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Farley that I witnessed in in rituals and there was the generational children that you know yes will be traumatized
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and you know receive horrific abuse but it wouldn't go to the point of yeah
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exactly being snuffed Etc yeah you know and then there's these other children that are brought from from wherever and
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this is what's so important that I'm describing the Expendables they bought
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at auction but one of my first memories myself of being trafficked was when I
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was three years old I had a twin sister oh wow and what they would do
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is they put jeel leashes on my sister and I and they brought us into the party
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and these are all wealthy um people in France and sometimes in
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Germany de Bay um they were in the Illuminati you would know their names
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but I mean I'm not going to be a name dropper because to me who cares yeah it
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was so perverted and sometimes at those kinds of parties with the children that aren't
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Expendable we had a special um temporary tattoo put on us that said you can't kill this person and we would and and
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they knew that their their life would be um endangered if they killed us so so
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they always sto short of that but they were allowed to do almost anything short of that um and so signs we were put up on a
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pedestal and they and for fun they bit on on the who got to have the twins or who got to have the set of triplets or
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who got and this is where you'd see your genetically um enhanced children who were pred specifically for these parties
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like a child with two genitalia or three breast or things like that you know and
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there are people that like crap like that and I'm and it's just and
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privacy yeah and then of course we' had been trained since we were little to do
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perform certain acts and and to accept you know and to do it so they knew too
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what what our training was during the bidding and they say well they can do this this and this it's kind of like describing how a dog can jump and bark
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and and jump through a hoop well they would describe the sexual activities that we could do and
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perform and um and then whoever got you for the
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night um they used us and sometimes you really
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thought you might not make it through the night you know like if someone was kind of drunk and laying over you and you're three years old and you can
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barely breathe it's kind of hard you know no matter how whether you're wearing the tattoo or
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not you know you're trying to to crawl out from under them so you can at least breathe you know and you're looking out
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for your your twin hoping that she's okay too but what they didn't know is that while we were at these parties we
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were also Gathering intelligence for the fathers too they were using us as as
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little spies and of course the wealthy people these parties never
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suspected that no not with such young children right yeah yeah and people
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talking from kids and they'll share stuff that's going on in their business and their business deals and their
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politics you know they you know and if they're drunk enough they'll talk a lot they think that kids are like a piece of
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wood that they don't think which was used I guess to the ord's
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advantage wow but it was an awful way when you're three you know all you're thinking about is I hope they see that
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tattoo on me of course just the fear just yeah yeah yeah and when you so
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that's another type of trafficking that goes on you know and it you know goes out throughout on throughout childhood
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you know and then um I will mention one person I
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was in my early TW in my teens I was a mistress to DAV um Rothchild in
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France he he loved the auction houses and he knew I had friends who were Brokers so he used
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my I was what 13 14 he liked young
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teens and young women um by the time I was 21 I was too
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old to be of interest much interest to him except we were quote unquote Friends by then or so he
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thought and um so you know we'd still get together for these
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dinners W but um you're to older 21 like
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what what an inverted lifestyle really and how old would he have been at that
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time can I ask he was older than I was he he was quite a bit older than I was
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at that time yeah so but but that whole
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family is perverse but anyway but that's all the side note I I don't mean to go and rant about them so the Brokers keep
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meticulous records too of their buys and sells and um they share with each they
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have called the list and it would come out weekly with the the latest prices on children and like I said they would
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Supply the brothel and and and the um the auction houses or the private and
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and some of the um like the Rothchilds and the bottenberg and the the very
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wealthy families would have their own private broker and that's all you would do is go go to the warehouses and select
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children that he knew they would like they call them they call them the procuror or the the procurers for them
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and so they're the family um purchasing agent who buys their children they've got their own own um
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own help I guess that kind of reminds me of like a Jimmy Sable kind of character someone going around and just scoping
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different people out you mentioned a listy like like that their keeping
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records and there's a list was was it like they actually had a set price for
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different at that it's like a stock exchange oh my gosh yes it's it's like
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the stock market is horrendous that the Brokers have the list and it's updated weekly and so the Brokers know exactly
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what the going rate for say a blonde blue-eyed Caucasian boy would be or or
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an Asian female of four years old who's been trained to do certain sexual acts
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or you know um you know I don't know or a
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Malaysian uh set of twins that are two years old so so they
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they actually have lists that they they they use as a starting point for their their pricing and then they they of
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course update it based on what the going rate is yes wow and it is a huge huge huge huge
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Money Maker yeah and that's that's the sadness
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of it all too they make a lot of money I mean millions and millions and millions
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and millions and millions and it's all Black Ops money so
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there's no tax it just disappears into into these occult groups except there
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was one person that I know that in Amsterdam that the um Brokers paid
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a percentage of they had to pay a percentage of their um fees too and
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that's the father over Amsterdam wow so a Jesuit father Yes yes
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and they paid him his tithe and that's why I had I was raised by people who
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were Brokers so that I could go then and work for some of the brokerage houses and see if they were being honest and
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paying their money that was one of my jobs as a teen was to help keep keep
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books jeez what a what a huge business if they're having to actually put people
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in to to is a horrendous sorted sorted sorted
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business to to give people watching an idea like would you have I mean I know
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this is like going back like 16 years ago now but would you have any idea of how many children might be traded in a
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week and like what sort of prices that they're talking about just
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so we can kind of get a perspective of you know what sort of you because it's just such a huge money spinner for them
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obviously as well well a fair skinned infant at the growing rate at that
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time like Caucasian looking infant would go for close to
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$100,000 wow a child who a pair of twins let's say of Asian descent um who
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maybe were three years old and we trained in certain sexual gymnastics might go
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for 150 to 200,000 wow huge the pair yeah a lot of money
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for some of them um for a a teenage girl of say 13 or 14 going to the broel the
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prices would be lower you know it might be 50,000 or 40,000 it depends it depend on
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how much how much use they felt they could get for her how attractive she was
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and other factors some of the um teens when they got there they would have a
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special area where they were taken to the girls and boys and the and then they
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would sit there and get them addicted to drugs first before they would take them to the brothel some the broos wanted
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them to be addicts so that they could control them and there's less chance that they would break break away or try
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to run away it's just I I mean it's incredibly evil the things they do it's
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Sor horrific is know yeah people in general that aren't
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you know aware of you know this underworld of of Cults and and mind control and ritual abuse we just have so
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much trouble processing how organized this is and and the size and scope of it valy
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it's it's just absolutely horrific I think the perception is you know this is like something that one
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dirty old man gets up to when he's on holidays overseas you know and to hear
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you know that there's houses there's trucks coming in there's Brokers there's a Jesuit priest demanding teeth like
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it's it's and they also come into America like one route was um from
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Quebec they would go um they would come down through Canada through through Toronto and then down into New York city
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so it's very common in the US too and that's why you know um I did see the movie um sound of freedom I don't know
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if you've heard of it I haven't seen it myself I've had a
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few survivors and Friends watch it and they they sort of their perception was it was just a very a very sheltered look
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at the industry makes sense and I expect that you know considering who made it
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and the people involved yeah exactly but but um but it did show just one tiny
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slice except it didn't show the extent of it it didn't show the very very very
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young children and implied that they were coming from um Mexico and South
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America and through the cartels and that's only one slice of the pie that's a very small section of the trafficking
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one way they get um gals from um into Canada was they would put ads you know
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like like you know Nanny wanted or housekeeper or model wanted and and you know and they would get these um teenage
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girls to apply you know or come learn English and and be paid at the same time
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and then they would just disappear wow and they would go to broel
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New York New York was a large Center um Phoenix Arizona Los Angeles is another
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they had they actually have trafficking routes where Vans full these girls and
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and children are just transported across the US you know it it's bad it's really
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bad and it's much more extensive than than that movie showed I'll tell you that but reason I'm talking about this
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at all it's horrendous to hear about is because people need to become aware of
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the extent of this there's a lot of definitely evil going on in this area and young
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children who are just being exploited horrifically absolutely it's it's so
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important surv it's been covered up no one's reporting on it no one's investigating it um I went to a
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trafficking conference here in the US several years ago and there's a fibi
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agent talking about the sting operations they were doing and I'm listen thinking they're getting one or two pimps yeah
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off of a street corner and so I went to him later and I said what about the
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large scale international trafficking that's being done you know like through the sports of entry and I mentioned a
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few you know are you doing anything about that and he just looked at me like like I don't know like I I had a horn in
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the middle of my forehead or something he just said no no no and he got he acted really nervous and he left he went
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to the other side of the room I thought well that answers that why we're not
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hearing more about the real problem why we're hearing the sanitized version in the media that just tells us little tiny
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bits here and there it's so true isn't it it's always just portrayed as like this one house a small group of men that
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were up to this and it never really like the larger Network here aalia it is and
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that is by the way that is a real issue I mean I'm not I'm not at all
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downplaying the woman who's been trafficked out of financial need or because her boyfriend got her into it or
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because her gang is doing it I am not at all dismissing the painful aspects of that or how horrific that is
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too but I'm saying but that's not the whole picture and usually when you hear about trafficking that's all you hear
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about that's right we're not sort of given the big picture that you're describing now which is like an
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international both targeting and then feeding children through to these Destin
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coin TRS many women and children and babies would
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be on a a truck like the one that you experienced oh gee I know there might be
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like three dozen infants and then there might be
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um on a trip and then there might be
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like 20 older children cuz they had like little um sleeping mats and you know
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almost like like you know those you know like in the Army had they have those little uh fold out CS that are in rows
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yeah like on the sides well well they had these little little um beds that would like come down like in Rose almost
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like like in a Navy sh yeah yeah and and then so they'd have the older children
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sleeping in those oh my and um and the infants you know they would have
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on a trip like that though you'd probably have about six older caretakers helping
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to helping to feed the children keep them quiet um you know uh take care of
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the infants uh sedate the children and infants when you're if you're going to a checkpoint where it it's kind of you
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know you want them to be silent in case there were people nearby you know besides the guards although they tend to
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go through it in the middle of the night when no one else is around but you know it's all very well organized and blotted
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out but you can get a lot of kids in the back of one of those that is just lay
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down in their little C you know their their little beds that's actually so much more than I
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was expecting you to even space valy that that's just huge and obviously like
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you were saying these checkpoints you know must have a deal and be paid off because that truck if anybody looks in
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it there's no excuse for having that amount of children like it's not five or six is it yeah yeah well I mean it looks
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like a business truck on the outside of course it looks very legitimate but yeah they Fair they pay a lot of
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money and or even try to have some of their people get jobs at the at the checkpoints too and they know one if
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there's someone who who is sympathetic to them or who's mind controlled or who's been paid off to to wave them
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through they really organize it well yeah I just think aan you know that the
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way they would be looking at that truck's cargo just the amount of money that they would be able to sell those
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you know in children and young people for like they've got plenty of money to grease that truck's way through it's oh
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just horrific and if you realize though that there's car they call them caros are coming in
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weekly they use different Roots they don't use the same routes all the time and they don't go the same places they
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have places over the world they go to to get children from and I'm talking about Europe but
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they they do it to other countries of course you know India Malaysia China
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yeah Russia um and South America too I was
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going to ask youy because you we know um with the Jesuits being like the military
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arm of the the Vatican and obviously so many children become vulnerable and
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targeted when the US goes into a country and and starts a war so like when there's um Afghanistan or Iraq there
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were so many children that went into trafficking networks and went into organ harvesty and that sort of thing did you
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ever see those kind of children coming into Europe or that they were
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potentially sold somewhere closer I I guess as
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well um not so much that way as um like
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let's say a country is at Civil War like I'm going to say let's say a fictional country in Africa is at Civil
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War sometimes what these people will do is they will swoop in they with permission they will come into a village
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and pay off whatever um regime is in
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charge a huge amount of M money to allow them to come and just scoop children out of the village it's unbelievable but
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there are some countries where that kind of corruption but that these are the same kind of countries that take children into as child soldiers into
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their own Army okay so but there's unbelievable corruption where they say
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there's this Village and it might be a village of a tribe that's at war with the main government and and they say can
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we go into that Village and just take their kids and infants they'll say oh yeah get rid of them and then they say yeah we'll pay
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you Millions to let us do this and and they do
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terrific it's just like there never seems to be a shortage for these people that are are sech searching for
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vulnerable children and infants they've got so many places to look right and then sometimes to cover it they'll
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they'll just like they'll say that the Army came in and committ genocide and destroyed the village well wow not the
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whole village yeah what about the children what about the infants yeah
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yeah yeah maybe the adults but not the children I wish I didn't know about things like this know Gabby I really do
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they must be so hard to just go back and go back into these memories again so
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thank you for your time and and sharing it with us because I feel it's so important that we give people a clearer
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picture of what child trafficking is about and it you know not the very limited picture that they're being given
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which you know at least people are now aware of it you know because of these bigger Publications and movies and that
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sort of thing that is going out but I think this is a great interview to share with someone that's maybe seen um you
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know that that movie to give them an an actual idea of the extent of it because until we really understand how big these
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networks are and how they're operating you know really unhindered above our governments till we realize that how do
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we stop it yeah yeah yeah you mentioned about the Jesuit priest uh like
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overseeing the Amsterdam area just in terms of the structure I would love to
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ask you know were there other occultic groups where working under the Jesuits
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there some of the Brokers from different occultic groups for example that were starting to to traffic children oh yeah
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as well no no no a lot aot some of the Brokers were in were somewhat
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independent Brokers some were working for groups and some like I said and then
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you had the procurators who were um work for the private families you know the wealthy fames so you would see a mix of
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that so you might see various group groups oh definitely you'd see various groups coming in or their Brokers coming
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in and and bidding for the private parties of the wealthy it tended to be the procurators would come and and you
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know get children and they were always given First Choice really and then and then after
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that then then the Brokers for the lar large brothel or for the large um sex
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clubs in my memories what I remember is there all over Europe there's private sex clubs where anything goes including
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pedophilia and all kinds of nasty things that did you say all over Europe sming
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oh well I mean not not not yeah well I mean it's in various countries all over Europe yeah yes I meant no not in I
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don't mean all over everywhere but I mean in in very in almost I'm sure is all over
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everywhere it's just right yeah there's private sex
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clubs where anything goes anything I'm talking about things like like being allowed to go and take a
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child and put its head in a toilet and flush it because that's what some people like to do just seeking yeah things like
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that and animal shows with children and they have them in the US
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too and in Mexico and South America and all I mean Russia you know so it's it's
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it's not just you know China so lots of countries have them and these are uh
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very private exclusive underground sex clubs and so the in the industry the
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Brokers also Supply children for those too and I I remember reading in your
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blog which I found quite interesting and just shocking really how in
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Amsterdam I guess because these clubs and you know where children are offered for sale and these horrific depravity of
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sexual activity people need to find these places so they
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have special ways of letting you know people in the know know what's on offer
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and um you mentioned in your blog how in Amsterdam they would actually in the red
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light district have you know a woman who was for sale actually cradling an infant
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very late at night and I was just like oh there's so there's so many tourists that would bought pass and not be like
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oh is she babysitting or you know was was the sick or you know like think so
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many things like I like five years ago I wouldn't have been like oh my God they're selling children um but it's so
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it's so clear looking at it now and I know here in Australia I mean I don't know if they still do that that was back
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then I mean probably since I did my blog they've stopped you might be too obvious now who
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knows but yeah but but back then they would do that you know and the children
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the children of the prostitutes that ran the streets it was awful you know what I
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mean that was awful too so far from home and you know there would have been vulnerable children already that have
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probably had you know such such hard days which is one thing but it ends up
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you know within ultic groups you know practicing horrific rituals and sexual
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depravity you know that's that's just yeah beyond belief isn't it yeah so I
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think I've lifted the lid off of a very ugly ugly ugly um International
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problem I what I do wish is that something could be done I wish there was a way that these um auction houses could
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be stopped that the buying and selling could be stopped I wish there was a way
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that something could be done um I was actually gonna ask you sp as well just from someone that has seen such huge
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operations is there or what do you see as the solution going forward because I
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know we've all been banging our heads against the wall over the the previous years you know trying to get things
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looked at and like you were talking about how you you inquired at a traffic trafficking conference without getting
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help and no one wanted to I've done the same i' I've you know approached many
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different groups it doesn't get act when it's a large enough operation it just doesn't get action yeah justed under
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paperwork it people get moved it just doesn't get done so it seems that it's
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just a few lackes a few few small Buss they throw they throw one under every
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now and then um but the actual operations so yeah I'd love to you think
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could be a solution well I don't know about a solution but and I'm going to mention my Christian faith here but
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prayer I believe we need to pray against I love that the um demonic that
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that feeds this kind of a system yeah I believe that as a Christian that we need
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to pray for those trapped in it that they get free including the Brokers because so
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many people in the industry from the bottom up are just trapped um that the poor women who are
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trapped on are blackmailed into taking care of the children um we get
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free we it's going to take a miracle and we need to pray that God
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would do that miracle and bring change into some of the um the human hearts it
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I think help me to increase awareness that this is an issue because right now people are just a lot of people are
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reeling from the thought that oh my gosh you mean children get trafficked you know um at all yeah even eight-year-olds
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they have trouble believing that so but we live in a world where denial people
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look the other way they don't want to believe these things happen but by maybe educating people maybe
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um some of the survivors who are now speaking out um I think that we can pray that
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this this gets not only exposed but that people in the media would be willing to
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report it absolutely that people in are the legal system or the Justice systems
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would be willing to do something about it uh that we come against any demonic
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protection uh over what's happening that we pray against that that demonic and
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just ask that God take it down and and exposes and and help people to get free
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that he would set the captives free yeah I love that I think it's so
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important to realize that you know behind a very physical problem of you know children being
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targeted and then handled and and trafficked all over the world for these horrific practices there is that you
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know that spiritual component of you know these dark entities and demonics that are are encouraging and basically
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Behind these people's actions so it's a beautiful way to look at it Valley of of
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the power that we can together as a community to pray over over these networks to be exposed to be shut down
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for the children to be able to come out and survivors bravely speaking out like
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yourself barley as well I know today would have been really difficult um talking about the abuse of young
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children you know those courageous stories are really highlighting this
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evil the truth of this evil that we need to know like we need to we need to have
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the entire picture of it not just a a a G-rated version of trafficking for us to
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be able to solve the problem as well so thank you so much for you know so
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bravely covering such a traumatic area and you know I I hope for people
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watching you know you can take action through you know taking some taking some
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time to pray over this you know making that a regular regular part of your day because you know for these children it
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is their day and it is their lives so you know I think that that's something really beautiful that we can do is just
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try and pray over this entire situation to be exposed and shut down and pass on
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this interview to people that have some awareness of trafficking or or you know maybe have seen a movie recently about
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it but don't really understand the full depths of it you know this is a great time to actually give them some more
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information because they know that trafficking exists at least they just don't really have the full picture so
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thank you so muchy is there anything else that you would like to finish on not really at this point I think we
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covered quite a bit but I do believe prayer does work me and I do believe
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that um I also believe in putting um personal action so if um anyone feels
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led to to write their congressman and ask why isn't this something being done
47:16
about this or whoever um anyone who might have connections or be aware of
47:23
trafficking just be aware that traffic tring has a lot of layers to it and maybe it's time to start um doing
47:31
something about the youngest and most vulnerable it's so true the infants the babies and
47:38
the young children yeah without us they don't have a voice and you know yeah by
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us all understanding the levels of trafficking at least we're equipped to start being able to see this in our
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communities as well and I always say to say to people that are learning about this because it's such a dark topic you
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can be proactive both through prayer and through educating others but keep it keep an eye out like you know constantly
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have your eyes open in the community like a couple of girls I know that um you know are aware of trafficking a few
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months ago they're at a pool and they noticed a little girl getting targeted
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by an older man trying to lure her into the toilet so they were able to jump in and do something about it and we don't
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know where that would have went but because they're aware of trafficking they're aware of how these people work
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they saw it so you know never never think that you know something as simple as sharing an interview like this or
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talking to someone about trafficking it it might help a child it might you know save one from being abused and and get
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get them out of you know horror horror much earlier so we can all we can all
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take action in our communities as well so thank you so much for your time SP
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it's always it's always such a pleasure having you join us and thank you for you
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know shining your light on such a such a horrific area that is so prolific you
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know in our in our world and it's time for us to you know really push back on that darkness and and pray through it so
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our children can be free thank you so much thank you Gabby God bless you I'll bless you
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too
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Appendix 2
Transcript 2 [2r] 2023 Jul Rumble Svali on the Illuminati, Jesuit power structure, demonics used in mind control & 'gifts' Gabbi Choong
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welcome everyone today we have svali speaks joining us how are you smiling
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good how are you Gabby I'm so good it is is such an honor and a pleasure to to
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have you joining us today you are someone that I've been reading your blogs and your work for so many years
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and I was just um saying before we started today your work is something that I use all
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the time with survivors and you know there's so many brilliant topics that you've broken down for us to to
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understand so it's such a pleasure to be able to host you on and and have you share some of your story and we're going
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to talk about some topics that I think are really important in these times about how demonics are used in
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programming about the Illuminati structure and just really start breaking
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down some of the programming for people but for people that don't know who or haven't come across Valley as of yet
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she's an incredible Survivor who has been speaking out about you know how she's been able to break through from
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her own programming and break free of colts for many many years and I know that the resources that you put out
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there with your fantastic blog svali speaks helps so many and savali's also
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written an incredible book called Breaking Free of cult programming and to introduce to I just wanted to read a
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little bit from from a description of that book because I just think it it's so on point to what we're all learning
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and starting to understand today about the Illuminati so it says in order to
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understand Illuminati coal programming it is first necessary to understand a
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bit about the structure and the philosophy of the organization the Illuminati are a group of people who
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follow a philosophy known as illuminism or Enlightenment and the Illuminati were
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named several hundred years ago but Trace their roots in history to the ancient mystery religions of Egypt
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ancient Babylon and even Mesopotamia so out of these ancient religions which
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were practiced secretly over hundreds and hundreds of years there arose esoteric groups which continue to
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practice the rights the traditions and enculturation brought in from these
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original groups over the centuries these groups practiced openly in some
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countries and covertly in countries where Christianity or other religions
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oppose their practices some of the groups which came out of these ancient Roots included the order
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of the Knights Templar the Rosa Christians
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baphometic cults these groups were the forerunners or the roots of the modern
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day illuminism the original illuministic leaders chose
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to take what they felt were the best practices of each root religion combine
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them into principles and then organize these into principles according to the specific guidelines
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modern day luminism is a philosophy funded by the wealthy but practiced in
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all social strata it is a philosophy whose tenants have spread across the world
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it started with the German branch of rosicrucians spread to England and then
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came to the United States with the first settlers the Illuminati have three main branches
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the Germanic branch which oversees the others the British branch which handles
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the finances and the French Russian Branch all three branches are represented within the United States and
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Canada as well as every country in the world I just thought wow that's such a a
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summary I think of like what many of us I know for myself are starting to uncover is you know we've known about
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the Cults and how they operate sometimes from personal experience um for survivors but I think we're just
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starting to really get a glimpse of you know how far far reaching this this spiritual technology goes back into you
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know times of Babylon and Egypt and it's just it's quite astonishing to just see
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how it's really been transferred down through generations and and being this hidden
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like describe there illuminism or hidden knowledge that's just been kept from the
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the general public in order to enslave the masses and I thought I would love to
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start with asking you smiley you know from your personal Liberty experience because we sometimes you know sort of
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Wonder you know what is this structure with Illuminati how does it fit in with the Jesuits and you know the Knights
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Templar Etc from your lived experience like how did
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you find those kind of groups meshed together and what do you sort of see is the you know the pyramid structure and
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and who's at the at the very top of that yeah okay
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um to answer that basically
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there are uh 12 great occultic societies
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international business societies around the world is what I've remembered
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and when I first got my memories it was as being a member of the Illuminati but then later in my healing Journey as
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I was remembering a ritual where the there were 12 fathers for the Illuminati
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too and that's that's because 12 is a is the number of governance and a lot of occultic groups I know there's always 13
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because Satan is the 13th but but at the same time 12 is a governance for a lot
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of international groups as well and so I saw the 12 fathers but then I saw a
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Jesuit father behind each of them and I'm like what the heck is this and that's when I started to get my memory
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of the Jesuits and what I remembered is that um
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I was a member of the Jesuit order and I had infiltrated the Illuminati
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um so in fact several generationals uh because the Joseph and the occultic hierarchy
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the 12 societies each have their own like territories and areas of governance like I mentioned
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about the Illuminati some of their areas you know France Russia Germany the US
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and although they have outposts in other areas uh the Templars have like a huge
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influence in France as well and in French Canada um you know and also in parts of South
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America as well um there's other orders like in Italy
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Magnificat is very active um Opus D.A has its its own cells around
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the world that's another one of the 12. so there's uh the rosicrucians are in a
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lot of different countries and so each of these societies has their own regions that they've been allocated
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and they they sometimes work within one another like let's say that I'm I'm an
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Illuminati and I'm going into a Templar region of the world leadership in
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normally if I'm on a mission you have to notify the leadership of the other group what you're doing normally and then they
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they give you permission to come into their area and do your work and then leave you know they need to know when you're coming and going
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um well what I've remembered this is basically in the hierarchy the Joseph orders over all of them
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um and in fact uh they have what they call the summer games in June of each
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year where um or the Roman games and a lot of the leadership of each of the groups will
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come at that time the top leadership and we'll swear there and renew their fealty
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and and loyalty to Rome at that time but most of the people in the lower
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levels of the groups don't know about that you know it's not something that's shared with everyone
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and that that's what I've remembered is that the gesso orders at the top of the
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hierarchy but they have to interact and work with the other groups as well all the groups do to some degree in order to
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accomplish what they're trying to do incredible so from just for me to kind
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of make sure I'm understanding that correctly so even though you I guess
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were born into a generational family that were Illuminati the Jesuits were
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literally another group above that that were almost right
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because the family I was born into generational had actually been infiltrating the Illuminati for the
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Joseph order for Generations [Music] incredible
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in fact they've infiltrated most of the occultic societies
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secretly wow so the same thing that's happening out in the
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the nerd world with the Jesuits is really happening within the culture groups as well yeah incredible exactly
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yes and this is very hard to talk about just
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so you know just one thing to write it on a piece of paper another thing to actually be disclosing this publicly
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although I've written about it on my my blog you know but still it's it's yeah
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this is high security stuff for me absolutely we thank we thank you
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for your courage coming forward and for everything you do with you know sharing in your blog and I understand it's you
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know as a Survivor we're you know programs literally to you know hold so many things as secret and silent and you
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know the threats around that so I know it's it's so difficult to come forward and speak about these things so please
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please take your time um I would love just to to ask you you
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know to give us a little snapshot of you know what it was like as a child you
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know growing up within you know and an Illumina Illuminati family or as we've
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sort of discussed there even a a Jesuit family just so people can get a get a
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view of you know maybe how that's that's different to the other other culture groups Etc and and what you found there
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and I know that you were actually involved in being trafficked you know through some really big institutions you
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know even the the Vatican at times so these are a really high level groups that that we're talking about as well
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well how many hours do you have foreign
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lab in Switzerland wow at CERN
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um then um was raised in the Joseph facility the first three years of my
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life but at the same time um
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that I had a triple I actually had a triple set as well as two other doubles
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of me and we would take turns rotating um once we were three we were actually
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hosted in our Illuminati family that's when I first came to I had a
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hosting in France in Germany and Russia in the US and so I first came to those families when I was three
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and um by then of course I I had a lot of
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presentation they called presentation programming in place so I had programming to present in the United
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States in France in Germany and in Russia and each of those presenters saw
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that they were the only part of me they had no knowledge that I had other parts hosting in the other countries
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and because I had four doubles we would take turns wrote like I would spend
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three weeks in America and then I would leave that switch out and put my twin there and no one ever
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knew because we looked alike and they never suspected that was going on and then maybe a month later another one and
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so I would rotate between the presentations but I was spending the majority of my time still in in Rome at
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the facility there and so my main Allegiance was to Rome but with the other doubles is we would
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switch out and do our roles within the Illuminati and the different presentations so I might spend two weeks
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in America as a three or three three weeks in America as a three-year-old and then go spend two weeks in Germany go to
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Rome for six weeks Meanwhile my twin is going to France for two weeks and then
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maybe my other doubles going to Russia for two weeks too you know to because alumni will rotate people between their
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presentations and then you know start all the the
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rotate in between presentations so I so my life was traveling between Rome and the various presentations so I was going
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to and hosted that wow how incredible it's just it's
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mind-boggling to just think of you know how organized the setup is when there's multiple you know copies
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they had computers back then even was an effort and there was it's all tracked they have they the trainers
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um they had trainers and others will schedule the the children they very carefully organize and plan the
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scheduling that way incredible yeah
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just to understand you know that level of programming and even as you know like a young child a three or four year old
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you already had you know such prominent programming that you could present in different countries and you know I guess
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it was that to kind of fit into the culture yeah and that kind of thing oh yeah yeah and to have a cover oh yeah
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and and to infiltrate because Illuminati of course they do the families do raise them their kids aren't raising a
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facility but also my mother in America was Jesuit as well
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so she helped to maintain the cover if that makes sense and as part of it and
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um my husband in France was Jesuit so we were doing it together
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to maintain the the cover and so and
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a lot of times like that the man that trained me in America for the Illuminati was Jesuit too so he could cover for me
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at times or our schedule so that it would work out too so there was a lot of coordination that was going on for
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Generations several Generations to make it work
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anyway this is what we hear isn't it it's it's such a long game that they play you know
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that they're they're setting up these plans you know over so many generations there's so so many networks involved
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internationally and I think that you know is is often what people just it just absolutely blows their minds
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when they begin learning about this it's just how organized these Network structures are and how they all mesh in
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together behind the scenes it's such a hidden yeah hidden Wells
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um I would love to ask because I know that obviously through your training you were you know trained as a programmer
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within the Illuminati yes um would you be able to to share with us you know some of you
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know what you saw or your experiences there that you feel would be you know relevant for for survivors to understand
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so I think it we're so grateful and so so lucky to have someone like you
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speaking out because everything that we can learn about you know programming at this stage allows us to to continue back
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through our own as well so anything that you feel called for to to share with Savannah
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okay I was also a a high level trainer in the Joseph order as well and so
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um and I've tried to use those skills as well in my own healing Journey I'm
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I'm amazing wow that's a very broad question I'm trying to think of what would be most helpful yeah I think that
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one thing that people um often Overlook in healing is a role of attachment
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the role of bonding because when our survivors early on in their
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Journey what they tend to remember is these are the evil bad people that hurt me and I hate them and they're Wicked
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and I want to stay away from them and what they don't realize is these
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awful and yes what they do is awful but these are the people that that or my mother my father my
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sister my brother my uncle my cousin my best friends everybody that I loved most
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on Earth the people I bonded to are members of these groups and so in order to get out what people
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don't rise is is there is a deep attachment to these
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people and so in order to truly get free it means breaking that attachment Bond and
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and in most cases having if possible some kind of support or a safe person
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of some kind that you that you can talk to or be friends with or can help support you through that because it
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could be very difficult to break attachment without having someone you
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care about who's not a member of the group that for me was a very difficult process I mean I tried three times to
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get out and the first time I had insufficient attachment I attached to the wrong person the second time I did
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have a good attachment but I had so much programming still that even though I had broken a lot of my own
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programming in the end it was my my desire that my loved ones in the group
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not be hurt with the threats I eventually kind of got to me and so it so that was the ongoing battle is I love
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my sister I I love my in the Joseph triplets I love my twin brother and
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sister and this principle is for all groups I didn't want to see them hurt and they were threatening them yeah and
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um that was probably emotionally the most difficult part the
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emotions of it and the other thing I learned is programming doesn't work unless you agree with it
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um you you can beat a person and torture them but that's not going to
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get them to be programmed what gets a person programmed is I want I will agree to do this and to
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hold this inside and to keep it going because either a I want to survive or B
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I want the person that believes that I love most on Earth that I believe I can't survive without to survive
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and that's basic foundational and that's going to sound
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probably pretty deep that is because at core level that's what happens the infant is bonded these people know how
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to bond baby from the time you're an infant they're holding you they're rocking you they're nursing you they're
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giving you a bottle they're singing songs to you and that creates attachment in the
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infant and they use and manipulate that attachment so that when you're older
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your subconscious brain is not just thinking I need to obey program to be safe but if I want to be loved I have to
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pay my programming and that's the heart for me was has been the hardest to work on and to over to work through
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is that I can be loved without obeying my programming there are people that will care about me
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even if I don't do what I was told to do and that takes time and support and
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healing that is that is just brilliant it like you said it's very deep I think
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it's such a key a key part of us understanding you know these deep deep
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bonds and how you know our our love and our our hearts are manipulated you know
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with the programming and just just what you said at the towards the end there about you know it having to be accepted
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by us in some way for the programming to work I think that's such an important thing for us to grasp I would love to
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ask you svali I know you've written about in your blog and you've spoken
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about previously the programming that was involved with you know survivors
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heading towards you know the New World Order Pro New World Order events Etc yeah I mean military takeover and I
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thought that would be a really important thing just to to touch on today because those times seem to be looming around us
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you know at present so I would love to hear you watch okay
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[Music] one reason I am not posting quite as much on my blog lately is is I feel like
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saying read the newspaper if you want to know what the Illuminati
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are doing all you have to do is stamp on the TV it seems
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and in fact in in my original book and blog that I wrote in 2000 to 2002. I
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said that in the year 2020 that that the Illuminati and others would start to
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stop being covert that that would be that would be the turning point I wrote that what it's 23 years ago that
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20 the 2020 would be the turning point when they would no longer be as hidden
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it would become actually known is in 22 because in 2000 I wrote they were
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already in control but they were covered but in 2020 they would start coming out
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and becoming more overt and we're seeing that happen with with some of the things that happened during covet and other
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things that was the Turning Point as it were and now
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um a lot of the agendas are becoming over all you have to do is listen to the world if you want to know what the New
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World Order is up to the World Health Organization and um
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the world economic forum are all blatantly now they put the agenda out
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there yeah it's not hidden anymore is it it's just you know they're in the headlines
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yes exactly so that's why I don't bother exposing because they're exposing themselves now honestly and what could I
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add to what's already been in the headlines but I think that um
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there is an agenda for a new world order that's I believe that by 2030
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if my memories are correct and if timelines haven't changed it's going to be even more extremely up out in the
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open I believe that that by then we may see the Advent of a world leader
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that's a timeline that I was aware of when I was you know active
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that he that that world leaders alive and well will be exposed in 2030. give or take or we'll be introduced to the
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world and not as a world leader probably at first but he'll be very charismatic he will not look like what people expect
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he will be very sympathetic to the Jewish Nation and as well as other nations and we'll
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be helping to solve some of the crises that nations are escalating towards now
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including possibly a large War [Music] um
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I think things are going to get pretty intense for a while I think we're seeing things leading up
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to that but I also am a strong Christian and my faith is what has given me hope I do
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believe though too that there is a God a true God and not the false one who is in
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charge of our and who can who who will also be active
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and at work and helping people to get free I think we're going to see a mass Exodus from the occultic groups we're
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already seeing it I think there are I think it's starting with dozens and dozens so we're going to see thousands
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of people leaving because there's they're realizing this is the last chance before they take over
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that's why survivors are trying to get out that's why they're trying to break free and I believe that
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because of my faith I believe the true God can help them to get free and my prayer has been for years like God would
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raise up people to support those who are trying to break free and be a support to them
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that's why I did my blog was to help support people you know um online a bit
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or to help teach them some of the things that might be helpful but we need caring compassion empathetic
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loving people too to support what I believe will be thousands of survivors getting out well I'm just
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having tingles I I so feel that that is God's plan as well as far later
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to remove as many people as possible from the enemy's Kingdom and weaken it that way and you know by survive is
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getting free you know we're the ones that they've wasted or they've put so much time and energy and money into
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programming for various roles coming up you know I think you know by survivors getting free it's it's a way that we can
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really shake the enemy's Kingdom and God is leading up with me so oh yeah oh yeah
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and survivors are getting free I know survivors who are getting free I've seen survivors leave and I it's
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exciting to see because no matter how powerful or strong or
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scary that the occult tries to make their Kingdom there is a kingdom that is
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greater and even though the New World Order is going to be making its play I love and I
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believe it's in Isaiah where it says the government will be on their shoulders and the increase of his
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kingdom will be forever and they're talking about Jesus it's not talking about the leader of the new world order
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exactly so yeah so I know who's going to win and that helps me not be afraid when
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I see what's going on in the world around me Satan's trying his hardest but he can't
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win so true we know we know who wins in the
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end we're just gonna get everyone free before then thank you so much for sharing your
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experiences that I would love to ask you as well you know through your experience
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of you know working as a programmer and seeing people programs but one thing
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that survivors you know are really becoming aware of is the use of demonic
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entities energies during programming I know that can be a really challenging thing for survivors to break through and
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it can also be you know an incredible opportunity for survivors to get free because these influences really pin in a
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lot of the programming and I've seen incredible results with survivors I've I've been working with in as they remove
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these um energies entities yes how quickly their whole programming comes
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undone and they're able to move forward and I definitely know that was the case for me and you know when I was being
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targeted all of that yeah harassment actually brought up you know my energy attachments and I had to deal with them
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before I even completely understood that I was a Survivor I had little things coming up short but I mean my story is a
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little bit different to most people because I often work on trying to break down a lot of the other programming and
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push all the demonic stuff for sure you know the things that they see for the very last they're like I'm not going
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there um and I would say you know it is Enchanted facing those things but yeah I
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had to face them very early to survive and get out but as that made me move forward
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deprogramming so much easier without those influences as they come up so from
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Oh Yeah from your experience of you know being a Survivor and Z program but also seeing the programming going in is there
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anything that you could share that might assist survivors in kind of tackling this this area of energetic and
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spiritual warfare that's used during the the mind control programming sure
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um and this is based on what I saw
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when we did programming we would do rituals before and after a programming session
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and we would have the individual being programmed this was in my group so if a
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Survivor has memories different than I'm uh that's that's okay too because
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different groups do it differently so I would describe how the group I was in does that um so if someone has memories
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different than mine it it means we can both be right I want to emphasize that so but in the groups I was in we would
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do a ritual beforehand and once a person is old enough get them to agree to to allow the Demonic entity
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to to help them through the programming session the like a child would would
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believe I need this demon to help me survive this programming session or to take my pain away or to lock the memory
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so I can't remember it because if I remember then something terrible will happen to someone I love so before
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there'd be original and often afterwards or be a ritual to seal as well and so
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what the programmers found is that programming on its own if it's not reinforced will often degrade over time
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if like if you go a year without being programmed as a young child the programming will start degrading
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but if you seal it with the demonic and energy it it the whole programming
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actually holds in place much longer and and in fact it can be very difficult to get up rid of especially if the
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individual program believes I need that demon to help me cope with what happened that's one of
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the lies people are told or I need that you you call them spiritual
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um I guess that I need that spiritual entity or
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whatever to help me forgive or I need a spirit of Illusion to help
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me feel happy was just traumatized so as long as a
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person believes they need that then that entity will will often stay
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once it's addressed directly working through a lot of difficult emotions and
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brain States and stuff like that then the NAD will leave has nothing left to hang on to so for me it was a
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combination of actually actively renouncing the spiritual activities I was involved in
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getting rid of the entity but also healing the trauma working through the
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feelings journaling talking to people say oh my gosh you know this happened and I
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don't and you know I'd be crying and crime or or
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heartbroken as the feelings came up with the traumas but then I chose to go
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through that process because I didn't want these entities to have something to keep hanging on to
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and over time it it it it got better and better and yes I've been through
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Deliverance but I personally do not believe that Deliverance without
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trauma-informed healing works I I think that you need both hand in hand
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um I've seen people go to Deliverance and then 10 years down the road they go oh you know what I had all this trauma
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and it never really resolved to just went underground so I think um people need both
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that's incredible yeah yeah yeah and I think that's an
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incredible description of just you know how we have to be active in you know
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closing the doors to these things on so many levels like you know in our physical lives you know in our in our
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spiritual lives and just really like cutting these energies off basically oh
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oh yeah oh yeah because they're nasty and they and their intent is to destroy yeah and yet thank goodness there is a
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loving God who created the universe so whose intent is to heal and to love us and to to bring us back
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from these things so sorry and yeah I mean I I remember
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traveling Dimensions you know as part of my training you know because the the Jesuits and the Luna I do a lot of
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spiritual training oh some of the the nasty stuff that they can do is is unreal
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um I I was an oracle to a major Illuminati house for a year when I was 19. and that was
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um you want to talk about nasty just
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did not enjoy that at all but it was part of what I did
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at the time but I've but the lives of oracles are so
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awful too some of them and would you be able to
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describes Valley like what the role of an article is because I have a very limited understanding and I kind of see
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it as you know a almost like a psychic role for you know the Cults where people
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are going to to consult but you'd probably be able to do it better than me
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I think I'll describe it first in Rome um in Rome there's a place
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where they have nine oracles and they're chained to
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pillars and these girls are not allowed to leave and whenever a person enters into
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um this area these girls will cry out and scream and
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start prophesying and um it makes it very uncomfortable to walk
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past them you know make the hair on the back of your head raised but that's the worst example those are are the the
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oracles that are like ties to them from various occultic groups and and they're that's their full-time job and those
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poor girls usually don't last very long they usually only live for a year because it's such a or two
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but then the large occultic families will rent out oracles too and that Oracle will come and live in the house
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and and that individual will be in Oracle to the father like the the French
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father would have an oracle that stays at his house and when they have major questions and things they will go to the
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Oracle and ask and then her job then is to to be a channel for the entity that
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tells them what to do that gives them guidance or gives them a prophecy of what would happen like they might ask a
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question like who's my greatest enemy and or Oracle will consult and say it's so-and-so what is he planning to do and
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the Oracle will tell them and they have to be a hundred percent accurate if they're not
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they're killed you know so they want only the oracles are very accurate and I
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remember when I was at Oracle as as an older teenager in this one house of the Illuminati in Europe
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um one of the hardest things I went through is the son came to me and said
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when is my father going to die and I remember looking at him and saying
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you cannot ask me that because the day I give you that answer your father will kill me so I said he knows the answer go
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to him and ask him you know but it's because the son couldn't wait for his father to die you know and he
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wants me to tell him and I knew that would be foolish even as it you know teenage well I was 19. I knew that would
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be foolish to do because it would be reported to his father but so those are some of the things that
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they do but that was on that was just for a year in that house I wasn't changing or
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anything I was allowed to go around there's a lot more freedom and the oracles held an honor of course she has to have relations with
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the the head of the house and all that as part of her job and
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so basically um
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that was one job I did too as well as being a trainer I was given a year off on my training
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duties to do that not much of a year off my new it's just
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it's just no mindfulness I mean
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all right trigger warning I'm gonna be a little crude but I was discussing this as a friend I said it seemed like like
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all he wanted was my two orifices working for him if you know what I mean my mouth speaking and
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I won't go into the other I know that's true the library and that's I think
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that's what we have to do it was slavery so it's modern day slavery that it is
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red noses like so horrific yeah but that's that's a mentality in
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these groups yeah they have the right to have that power over someone
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I would love to ask you you know because of your knowledge of that role and also the programming and the fact that you've
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been able to heal so so wonderfully to be able to speak out and do what you do to to assist other survivors there's so
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many survivors working through at the moment what is my gifts from God and you know what is things that the cold have
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put into me what what you know what is attached to demonics Etc and I know one thing that comes up a lot is people's
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psychic abilities because we know that you know demons are attached through that a lot of the time through some
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children as a child to enhance our connection with the occult World Etc
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I would love to hear what you would like to share with survivors about your journey of releasing you know these
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things that have been put into you for your own prac programming and finding your way way forward with that sort of
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thing around the gifts well psychic ability um
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they called it theater um because often the person at least in
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the in the group The Order you know the um Theta is a state where a person is
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very susceptible to spiritual entities and to be in contact with it and so for
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example one one ability that um Theta will will give you and it's because
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enhancement from the spiritual entities this ability to run incredibly fast
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Supernatural fast or to be able to run up the side side of a wall in a building
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you know which which would not be normally able to have almost superhuman not not totally superhuman but much
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enhanced strength and things like that another example of psychic though would
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be to travel these dimensions and to report back to uh the people what you saw when you're
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traveling the dimensions and that that could be a whole other hour talk about that you know
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um another psychic ability is um psychic assassination and people are trained in
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that and that's terrible but that's just what they do the ability to do that in
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the spirit Realm um and another
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ability is ability to remotely view to go to a building and see things and read
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a document and read it out to to the person on the other end you know because you're viewing it you're you can go
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through Falls you can do all kinds of stuff I know it sounds incredible but it
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really does happen people do do those things um
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another I don't know there's just all kinds of things like that that that
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um that people do and it's sad because again it's a type of slavery because
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that person has to be loaded down with so much demonic so much trauma to be
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able to do those things and it's really um
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and it it it creates a cost in people too when they do those things spiritually physically
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um when people are traveling I've actually seen people not come back and that was very difficult when I was
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you know involved in things like that
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there's there's just a lot of things to psychic abilities quote unquote all I
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know is they're not worth the cost I don't care what information is gained it's never worth the cost
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and I had to also talk to the parts that were
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involved in that get to know them have them give up their demonic um
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or their spiritual entity attachments and to see that they could stop doing their jobs I've seen people shape shift
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into different shapes uh part of the Mage training in the Jesuit orders to
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shape-shift into a bird shape and people and they will they as a raven
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or another bird um and as wolves and I've seen there are generational groups that um use their
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generational bloodline ability combined with huge demonic attachments who can
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shapeshift into werewolves another spiritual ability is what's called Omega and what that is is ability
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to carry spiritual for one another so a team can come in together of six or
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seven and Omega team and carry um spiritual things so that one for
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instance they have been working at creating um half demonic half-human entities I
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know this would stretch believability for a lot of people and but this is my memory um and and some of the labs but
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that takes a huge cost spiritually and physically on on the person so they'll have omega teams around the the mother
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carrying that half what what I believe and still do was half human entity that
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would have killed or or from the inside out unless others had helped to carry some of that for her oh wow and
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yeah so now I'm discussing stuff that's probably foreign
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no not at all we've had a few survivors speaking about the Nephilim and the breeding programs and we had Amanda
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really okay a few weeks ago so thank you so much for sharing because I think this
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is something that so many survivors are just beginning to realize you know and remember their own experiences in and
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just being able to hear it from someone that has healed and you know has worked through
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what comes from demonics and what is coming from God you know within us I
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think it's just it's so important to hear and you know thank you for you know
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sharing about the costs that you found with you know all of this the cult and
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and psychic work because that's you know through my experience of helping survivors heal and prepare to share
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their stories Etc that is is a big part of it is just you know renouncing the
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things that we've been taught are our gifts and that you know perhaps have comforted us you know during hard times
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Etc and realizing that they aren't of God they aren't of goodness they're not a good human
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um and just breaking free from those so thank you so much for sharing sharing all of that and you know I'm just so
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grateful to have to have had you here today and and you know being able to hear you know just a little snapshot of
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your story and some and some of your incredible work and as we finish up I would just you'd love for you to to
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share where people can find your blog and I'll pop up those details in um in the video description so people can
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check out some of those vali's years and years of work you know breaking down you know really important topics for
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survivors and and anything else that we haven't covered that you'd like to to share with us in a community
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okay um well my blog is slowly speaks again.wordpress.com
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so that's where people can I have articles I tried to organize them according to topic and I also wrote an
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entire book that's on the blog two different chapters on the Jesuit order and whatever some of the things I've
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remembered them including their involvement in trafficking like infant and child trafficking and
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other things that's that's the main way and my contact I do have a email there
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or a contact page that people then contact me through as well because I get a lot of questions I often
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it can take me a while to get back to people to respond I can't answer every question for
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everyone though too because a lot of times people say I have this do you think this is this type of programming
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and I can't do that through my my blog though or my email and and so if I and
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the reason why is because everyone is unique different groups do things
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differently I'm describing how the Illuminati and the Jesuits do things but
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other groups do things so differently everyone is unique that without knowing someone I cannot
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say oh this well actually I can never tell someone this is what you have they
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have to know and talk and get to know their parts and and themselves you know
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or or they'll say I have this going on do you think I'm in the cult I can't answer that either because
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for each I'm just saying this because I get this almost daily emails like that only that person can answer that
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question for themselves but I always encourage people to try to find a safe
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person they can talk to either a therapist or a support person
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or someone if they can find someone that they can share their concerns or questions their worries with because a
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real person who Who develops a relationship can be so much more helpful that's even much more helpful my
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my I actually wrote this Folly speaks again for therapists to help them understand that when survivors are
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reporting this stuff it actually happens this is real stuff yeah yeah yeah and I
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think that's that's been an ongoing thing for decades hasn't it just getting the therapist to understand that this is
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this is true and they need to treat it like trauma rather than just thinking it's it's someone in a psychosis So yeah
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thank you thank you for the incredible resources that you have there for survivors and if you haven't already checked it out I would definitely
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recommend heading over to svali's blog and it is very very well organized it's got lots and lots of um different
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headers so you can scan through and see what's relevant and even if your
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programming isn't necessarily just Jesuit or Illuminati there's many many similarities across the group so I think
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it's it's such a great starting point for people to just find out more and
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then you know hopefully you can journal and spend some time like Starley said you know speaking to your parts and and
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just breaking down perhaps you know what happened for yourself and I love your
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blog family because it empowers people to to do the work themselves and that they can LED program you know perhaps
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just with a a trusted person that they can speak to as well so thank you so
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much for your time today it's been it's been wonderful you joining us and yeah we we so appreciate everything that you
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used to do speaking out and raising awareness as well as you know sharing your incredible life experience which I
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know is very difficult for survivors to do especially if you know these kind of high-level Cults so we can all learn and
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deprogram together and bring everyone back to to God's Kingdom
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yes because that's where the real healing and the I think the strength to heal comes from too
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yeah awesome thank you bless you smiley thank you so much oh
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bless you Gabby