After watching Dan Duval's 5 interviews of Sue Ford's twin sister Esther, I feel that Sue was never fully integrated, and does not to this day recognise Esther as her twin. Sue stated that when Mark asked her about her twin, she thought he was referring to one of her MK Ultra parts, an inner twin. Could Mark have known about Esther? Interesting that Kathleen in part 4 stated that Kissinger wanted exposure of the programmes. The perps speak to each other via coded language, much of which is numerology. Thank's for the Memories was published in 1999, inverted, 1666. Chapter 33 was reserved for The Clinton's, whom apparently Kissinger despised. Both 666 and 33 are well known Masonic favourites, used frequently in MSM articles to communicate with each other about their various under hand Ops. Was Kissinger or other perps in control of the publishing and what was written?
Wow, some things i hadnt realized. I did think that Mark was referring to Esther. There's no way he didn't know. You made some very interesting points. I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was control on their end of the publishing, but I would be disappointed.
In my opinion, Chapter 35 of Brice's (Sue Ford) book "Thanks for the Memories" is the best, most accurate and succinct (two pages of truth) summaries of how the world system truly works that I have ever read.
i knew MARK PHILLIPS AND HE WAS AND IS AN AMERICAN HERO-AN ORIGINAL WHITE HAT WHO CHANGED EVERYTHING. YOU ARE ILL INFORMED. CATHY IS A DEAR FRIEND WHOSE LIFE WAS SAVED AS WELL AS KELLY'S. BOTH ARE DOING FINE. YOU SHOULD B ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.
I should not be ashamed of myself. I should be proud of myself. Thre is nothing I have said that diminishes Cathy or Mark. If you choose to read Part 2 https://foxyfox.substack.com/p/mark-phillips-was-he-cathy-obriens-d86 then Jon Gentry thinks Mark is a hero, but he also thinks he was Cathy's handler. The position is complex and the airing of all views is healthy, it is not helpful to try and reduce situations to a goodie / baddie position, especially in the mind control/ mk ultra sphere. I know people who knew mark Phillips and they say he was a handler. I am at present just reposting other views. It is shameful that some people SHOUT on my post, and call me ill informed, when plainly they are not ready to even contemplate other views. Have you concrete evidence that Mark was not Cathy's hander or was not mind controlled himself? If not then read the different views that are presented andthe evidence, as I continue the series.
HANDLER IS AN AWFUL WORD, AND YOU KNOW IT. MARK USED WHAT HE KNEW OF DE-PROGRAMMING OF PRISONERS TO HELP CATHY HEAL FROM TRAUMA AND IT WORKED. HE WAS HER PROTECTOR. I SAT WITH HIM IN THEIR HOME AS HE FACED THE DOOR ARMED WITH THEIR CHOWS AROUND HER 24-7-HE COOKED FOR HER, SAT UP ALL NIGHT WITH HER, TRAVELLED TO GET HER STORY OUT, ORGANIZED WITH OTHER WHITE HATS TO STOP THE TRAFFICKING OF THE GOV --HE IS A HERO. A HANDLER IS ONE WHO DRUGS RAPES AND BETRAYS. THAT IS NOT MARK.
THEY TORTURED HIM, AND ALL HE WANTED WAS TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE TRUMP WIN, WHICH HE DID. WE WERE SO HAPPY THAT HE LIVED THAT LONG. HERO WHITE HATS LOVE MARK.
While it is true that Mark did those things and that he loved Cathy, it is also true that he was not himself completely deprogrammed or disconnected from his CIA duties.
I was at a Free Your Mind conference in Philadelphia (2017) in which Mark and Cathy were connected by video and we were all supposed to hear Cathy talk about her escape from mind control. Mark turned it into a feel-good, hello-from-the-beach affair and every time Cathy started to talk about her past mind control, he cut her off. Afterward I spoke with a writer whose name you would know, who knew and had spent time with both of them and assured me there was something terribly wrong with Mark and definite signs of programming.
Then just a few years after, we became aware of a teenager who Mark took in from a family falsely accused of having programed and abused this daughter of theirs - with the family powerless to get their daughter back as she turned 18. Mark was apparently using mind control (NLP, etc., learned in the CIA) on her.
Ted Gunderson, the hero that he was, also has a tainted background, as I spoke with a couple who lived with him in LA in the early 1980s when Ted was embezzling from an older woman and bragging to them he was still on assignment spying (illegal wiretaps) on the big blue $cientology center in LA.
Read Chapter 35 of Sue Ford's book, "Thanks for the Memories." None of these men are free from mind control until they publicly and openly disavow the system they were working for. Usually - not always - they become Christian, but the important thing is the disavowal and repudiation of the beliefs and to seek a complete deprogramming. This beast system has deeply scarred every man that has been in the military, police, cults, religious organizations or secret societies.
Thanks Scott. That's interesting about the conference. It does seem as though she "deferred" to him alot. I haven't yet delved into the Mikaela /Shaela situation in writing, but I have researched. It does seem as though Ted and Mark had similar roles, and perhaps others too.
When ex-CIA false flag analyst Robert David Steele was interviewed by Shaun Attwood on You Tube and asserted "that book about Bob Hope" was plagiary from a stolen screenplay whose screenwriter author was suing its thief and plagiarist, I was able to find Sue Ford's email and her reply was that what Steele said was all untrue. Please clarify your source for claiming Mrs Ford is under Luciferian control. Do you differ Lucifer from Ahriman as does Rudolf Steiner?
After watching Dan Duval's 5 interviews of Sue Ford's twin sister Esther, I feel that Sue was never fully integrated, and does not to this day recognise Esther as her twin. Sue stated that when Mark asked her about her twin, she thought he was referring to one of her MK Ultra parts, an inner twin. Could Mark have known about Esther? Interesting that Kathleen in part 4 stated that Kissinger wanted exposure of the programmes. The perps speak to each other via coded language, much of which is numerology. Thank's for the Memories was published in 1999, inverted, 1666. Chapter 33 was reserved for The Clinton's, whom apparently Kissinger despised. Both 666 and 33 are well known Masonic favourites, used frequently in MSM articles to communicate with each other about their various under hand Ops. Was Kissinger or other perps in control of the publishing and what was written?
Sme good points there, and thanks for the info on Sue's twin, I have only watched one of the those interviews.
Wow, some things i hadnt realized. I did think that Mark was referring to Esther. There's no way he didn't know. You made some very interesting points. I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was control on their end of the publishing, but I would be disappointed.
In my opinion, Chapter 35 of Brice's (Sue Ford) book "Thanks for the Memories" is the best, most accurate and succinct (two pages of truth) summaries of how the world system truly works that I have ever read.
I will have another look at that, thanks
I'M SORRY, ALLY CARTER- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3bSh3Q6szM
I was just about to ask about Ally!
tupac's daughter??
Yes, she has apparently said that's a possibility
I KNOW YOU HAVE SUFFERED TOO-PLEASE LOOK INTO AMY CARTER AND MOVE ON FROM MARK
i knew MARK PHILLIPS AND HE WAS AND IS AN AMERICAN HERO-AN ORIGINAL WHITE HAT WHO CHANGED EVERYTHING. YOU ARE ILL INFORMED. CATHY IS A DEAR FRIEND WHOSE LIFE WAS SAVED AS WELL AS KELLY'S. BOTH ARE DOING FINE. YOU SHOULD B ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.
I should not be ashamed of myself. I should be proud of myself. Thre is nothing I have said that diminishes Cathy or Mark. If you choose to read Part 2 https://foxyfox.substack.com/p/mark-phillips-was-he-cathy-obriens-d86 then Jon Gentry thinks Mark is a hero, but he also thinks he was Cathy's handler. The position is complex and the airing of all views is healthy, it is not helpful to try and reduce situations to a goodie / baddie position, especially in the mind control/ mk ultra sphere. I know people who knew mark Phillips and they say he was a handler. I am at present just reposting other views. It is shameful that some people SHOUT on my post, and call me ill informed, when plainly they are not ready to even contemplate other views. Have you concrete evidence that Mark was not Cathy's hander or was not mind controlled himself? If not then read the different views that are presented andthe evidence, as I continue the series.
HANDLER IS AN AWFUL WORD, AND YOU KNOW IT. MARK USED WHAT HE KNEW OF DE-PROGRAMMING OF PRISONERS TO HELP CATHY HEAL FROM TRAUMA AND IT WORKED. HE WAS HER PROTECTOR. I SAT WITH HIM IN THEIR HOME AS HE FACED THE DOOR ARMED WITH THEIR CHOWS AROUND HER 24-7-HE COOKED FOR HER, SAT UP ALL NIGHT WITH HER, TRAVELLED TO GET HER STORY OUT, ORGANIZED WITH OTHER WHITE HATS TO STOP THE TRAFFICKING OF THE GOV --HE IS A HERO. A HANDLER IS ONE WHO DRUGS RAPES AND BETRAYS. THAT IS NOT MARK.
PS-MARK DID NOT SPEAK UNTIL HE WAS TEN YEARS OLD-BC OF HIS OWN TRAUMA AND THAT IS WHY HE GAVE HIS LIFE TO FIGHTING ABUSERS.
THEY TORTURED HIM, AND ALL HE WANTED WAS TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE TRUMP WIN, WHICH HE DID. WE WERE SO HAPPY THAT HE LIVED THAT LONG. HERO WHITE HATS LOVE MARK.
While it is true that Mark did those things and that he loved Cathy, it is also true that he was not himself completely deprogrammed or disconnected from his CIA duties.
I was at a Free Your Mind conference in Philadelphia (2017) in which Mark and Cathy were connected by video and we were all supposed to hear Cathy talk about her escape from mind control. Mark turned it into a feel-good, hello-from-the-beach affair and every time Cathy started to talk about her past mind control, he cut her off. Afterward I spoke with a writer whose name you would know, who knew and had spent time with both of them and assured me there was something terribly wrong with Mark and definite signs of programming.
Then just a few years after, we became aware of a teenager who Mark took in from a family falsely accused of having programed and abused this daughter of theirs - with the family powerless to get their daughter back as she turned 18. Mark was apparently using mind control (NLP, etc., learned in the CIA) on her.
Ted Gunderson, the hero that he was, also has a tainted background, as I spoke with a couple who lived with him in LA in the early 1980s when Ted was embezzling from an older woman and bragging to them he was still on assignment spying (illegal wiretaps) on the big blue $cientology center in LA.
Read Chapter 35 of Sue Ford's book, "Thanks for the Memories." None of these men are free from mind control until they publicly and openly disavow the system they were working for. Usually - not always - they become Christian, but the important thing is the disavowal and repudiation of the beliefs and to seek a complete deprogramming. This beast system has deeply scarred every man that has been in the military, police, cults, religious organizations or secret societies.
Do not trust these men otherwise.
Thanks Scott. That's interesting about the conference. It does seem as though she "deferred" to him alot. I haven't yet delved into the Mikaela /Shaela situation in writing, but I have researched. It does seem as though Ted and Mark had similar roles, and perhaps others too.
Dear Ms Fox
When ex-CIA false flag analyst Robert David Steele was interviewed by Shaun Attwood on You Tube and asserted "that book about Bob Hope" was plagiary from a stolen screenplay whose screenwriter author was suing its thief and plagiarist, I was able to find Sue Ford's email and her reply was that what Steele said was all untrue. Please clarify your source for claiming Mrs Ford is under Luciferian control. Do you differ Lucifer from Ahriman as does Rudolf Steiner?
Look it up on Dan Duval